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12/15/09 at 12:49:20
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Hi all, newbie here. Wow, lots of great threads in this Constitutional forum section, it's nice to see people still care.

Question for y'all - what's your Constitutional view on "corporate personhood"?

Should corporations have the same legal rights as Natural Persons?
  
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Reply #1 - 12/15/09 at 13:43:22
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ballantine wrote on 12/15/09 at 12:49:20:
Hi all, newbie here. Wow, lots of great threads in this Constitutional forum section, it's nice to see people still care.

Question for y'all - what's your Constitutional view on "corporate personhood"?

Should corporations have the same legal rights as Natural Persons?


I never heard of the term "corporate personhood". Is it another politically correct bucket of liberal slop?
  
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Reply #2 - 12/17/09 at 08:08:46
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I never heard of the term "corporate personhood". Is it another politically correct bucket of liberal slop?


Well, no... it might be more like libertarian slop, though.  Grin

Not sure if the forum will let me post links yet, maybe I can fake one, if you can put it together you can read all about it.

http // reclaimdemocracy dot org/personhood/

If you scroll down to where it says "significant court cases", you'll get the lay of the land.

Basically the idea is this: only natural persons, have Natural Rights. Assigning natural rights to a collective, is non-sensical, it's like saying "we" believe. Belief belongs to the individual, and so do natural rights.

That is distinct from "legal" rights though, because legal rights can be given or taken away by the sovereign (the state, or whoever makes the law).

There is an interesting modern example, in Article I Section 7 of the California Constitution, which you can find if you google on "california constitution". It's a very important section, it's called "declaration of rights", and you read about two lines down and there's the word PROVIDED, and there follows several paragraphs of the conditions, and at the very end it says "these rights and privileges may be revoked by the state".

So, magically, your natural rights, have been transformed into legal rights! And what is especially outrageous about it, from a conservative political standpoint, is that the reason they did this was to protect the state from federal lawsuits related to school busing!
  
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...and the wheels go 'round and 'round.

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Our Bill of Rights was the result of tremendous efforts to institutionalize and protect the rights of human beings. It strengthened the premise of our Constitution: that the people are the root of all power and authority for government. This vision has made our Constitution and government a model emulated in many nations.

But corporate lawyers (acting as both attorneys and judges) subverted our Bill of Rights in the late 1800's by establishing the doctrine of "corporate personhood" -- the claim that corporations were intended to fully enjoy the legal status and protections created for human beings.

We believe that corporations are not persons and possess only the privileges we willfully grant them. Granting corporations the status of legal "persons" effectively rewrites the Constitution to serve corporate interests as though they were human interests. Ultimately, the doctrine of granting constitutional rights to corporations gives a thing illegitimate privilege and power that undermines our freedom and authority as citizens. While corporations are setting the agenda on issues in our Congress and courts, We the People are not; for we can never speak as loudly with our own voices as corporations can with the unlimited amplification of money.

Read our draft constitutional amendment to revoke corporate constitutional "rights" and offer your thoughts.


http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/personhood/

  
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Interesting thing about the California constitution- it was more than 115 degrease in the capital when they signed it. This foreshadowed California's descent into hell.
  

God bless America and god damn the scum that try to destroy it.
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