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Is Obama trying to bankrupt America?
Mar 03rd, 2010, 7:18am
 
Inquiring minds want to know: Is Obama trying to bankrupt America? One short year ago, asking this this question would have guaranteed my inclusion among the ranks of right-wing nuts and/or conspiracy theorists. Today, it is a serious question being asked by Neal Boortz, Rush Limbaugh and many other leading conservatives. Here's why.

In the summer of 2008, as John McCain and Barack Obama were campaigning for president, a series of economic events (started by Sen. Schumer) resulted in shifting the focus of the presidential campaign off the Iraq war, and on to the economy. These events ultimately resulted in Barack Obama's election as President.

June 26, 2008: Democrat Chuck Schumer leaked a memo questioning the solvency of IndyMac bank. This memo precipitated a run on IndyMac which led to its failure. Federal regulators pointedly cited U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., in explaining the bank's failure. "The immediate cause of the closing was a deposit run that began and continued after the public release of a June 26 letter to the OTS and the FDIC from Senator Charles Schumer of New York."

This event, coupled with the Lehman Brothers collapse in September, marked the beginning of the current economic meltdown and provided the ammunition for massive government intervention in the private market.

July 12, 2008: The federal government takes control of the $32 billion IndyMac Bank. *

Sept. 6, 2008: Fannie Mae begins its downward spiral, which will end with a crash in November. This crash was avoidable, as the problems with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were identified in June of 2006, when 15 Republicans on the Senate Banking Committee introduced legislation to address the problem. Democrats, led by Barney Frank, killed the reform efforts.

Sept. 15, 2008: Obama and McCain are virtually tied in their race for the presidency. Out of no-where, in the space of less than 2 hours, the Federal Reserve noticed a tremendous drawdown of money market accounts in the U.S. to the tune of $550 billion. Rep. Paul Kanjorski of Pennsylvania said that if authorities had not closed the banks, $5.5 trillion would have been withdrawn from US banks, which would have caused the collapse of the US  within 24 hours.

This seminal event marked the ascendancy of Obama's candidacy, and eventually resulted in his election as president.

Its no secret that Obama is a member of the far left. And he has staffed his administration with fellow ideologues. Leftists, like former Green Czar Van Jones, who states he is an "advocate for a socialist utopia." Who believes that capitalism is "oppression and exploitation."

People like Ron Blume, who was appointed to reinvigorate the manufacturing base, who states, "We know the free market is nonsense."

Any economist can tell you that raising taxes, increasing debt, printing money and unbridled spending is not the way to handle a recession. So either Obama is ignorant of this, or he willfully chooses to ignore the lessons of history. Or he is adopting a strategy outlined by Cloward-Pivens: Overwhelm the system until it fails, and then replace it.

Based on Obama's actions to date, reasonable people must allow for the possibility that the change Obama promised may include destroying the free market economic system in order to replace it with an economy regulated by government entities.  

Spending America into bankruptcy might just be our president's way of leveling the global playing field. By bringing Americas to its knees. Based on Obama's actions, and the actions of his appointees, its time to seriously consider if destroying our economy is Obama's goal.

*Portions of this article were taken from A Contrived Crisis? Feb. 23, 2009

Nancy Morgan is a columnist and news editor for RightBias.com
She lives in South Carolina

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Re: Is Obama trying to bankrupt America?
Reply #1 - Mar 5th, 2010, 8:44pm
 
Playing the poor against the rich is a classic strategy that WORKS!

Obama knows this.

Step 1.  Inflate the economy by sending the nation as a whole into debt.
Step 2.  Create programs that mask tax hikes and adding imaginary benefits to the poor while actually reducing them.
Step 3.  Ensure horrible job growth while advancing that you have saved millions of jobs and pointing a finger at fat cat execs.

Requirements for Step 1.  A disaster like the housing bubble, credit crisis, and stock failure prefaced by the Enron Scandal.

Requirements for Step 2.  Obamacare... need I say more?

Requirements for Step 3.  Have an idiot like Bush support/advance the idea that Tax Payer monies should be given to a company for their own failure to prevent the pain an anguish of another Enron!

This is not all inclusive but a few highlights!
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Re: Is Obama trying to bankrupt America?
Reply #2 - Mar 7th, 2010, 8:06pm
 
Nancyvideo wrote on Mar 3rd, 2010, 7:18am:
Any economist can tell you that raising taxes, increasing debt, printing money and unbridled spending is not the way to handle a recession. So either Obama is ignorant of this, or he willfully chooses to ignore the lessons of history. Or he is adopting a strategy outlined by Cloward-Pivens: Overwhelm the system until it fails, and then replace it.


Actually, most economists would advocate precisely one or more of these actions in a recession. Keynesians advocate spending, and deficit spending at that during recessions, and taxation and fiscal restraint during boom times. Monetarists advocate printing money pretty much all the time.

The problem we've run into in this most recent cycle was during the boom time in Bush's administration, they pursued a pro-cyclical policy that led to a bubble and a higher debt level. Unfortunately, Clinton got fiscal policy right and Bush got it wrong.
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Re: Is Obama trying to bankrupt America?
Reply #3 - Mar 8th, 2010, 5:49am
 
dlmya,
When is Obama going to start taking responsibility? Blaming Bush is getting pretty old.
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Reply #4 - Mar 8th, 2010, 11:04pm
 
dlmiya wrote on Mar 7th, 2010, 8:06pm:
Actually, most economists would advocate precisely one or more of these actions in a recession. Keynesians advocate spending, and deficit spending at that during recessions, and taxation and fiscal restraint during boom times. Monetarists advocate printing money pretty much all the time.

The problem we've run into in this most recent cycle was during the boom time in Bush's administration, they pursued a pro-cyclical policy that led to a bubble and a higher debt level. Unfortunately, Clinton got fiscal policy right and Bush got it wrong.



yes... Bush did get it wrong, but Obama is making Bush look like a saint.  An equivalent statement would be this.

Bush accidentally killed 1 person and you see him as a Devil.  Obama sings a happy song while intentionally murdering 4 and you see him as a savior.
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Re: Is Obama trying to bankrupt America?
Reply #5 - Mar 9th, 2010, 6:20pm
 
Nancyvideo wrote on Mar 8th, 2010, 5:49am:
dlmya,
When is Obama going to start taking responsibility? Blaming Bush is getting pretty old.


I mean Bush did play a pretty big role. Obama isn't doing great, a big problem right now is the lack of confidence and Obama hasn't been really great at addressing that. To be fair though, I think it's really too early for Obama to be owning the recession more than Bush at this point, since government spending does take time to work, but people are hurting and the frustration is understandable.

A recession was coming anyways, but it was made worse by the malinvestments encouraged by Bush's pro-cyclical policies during his tenure. The idea is to save (payoff debt) in the goods times, and borrow (accumulate debt) in the bad times.  Clinton did this, Reagan did this after the Chicago school people lost favor, Nixon did this (Nixon said "We are all Keynesians now"), it's pretty much the basis of all post-war economic policies, and I guarantee if there was an R in the office, we'd still be seeing record spending and deficits. If we didn't, things would be a lot worse than they are now.

Haha, not to sound like an apologist for Obama...
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Reply #6 - Mar 10th, 2010, 12:18am
 
dlmiya wrote on Mar 9th, 2010, 6:20pm:
I mean Bush did play a pretty big role. Obama isn't doing great, a big problem right now is the lack of confidence and Obama hasn't been really great at addressing that. To be fair though, I think it's really too early for Obama to be owning the recession more than Bush at this point, since government spending does take time to work, but people are hurting and the frustration is understandable.

A recession was coming anyways, but it was made worse by the malinvestments encouraged by Bush's pro-cyclical policies during his tenure. The idea is to save (payoff debt) in the goods times, and borrow (accumulate debt) in the bad times.  Clinton did this, Reagan did this after the Chicago school people lost favor, Nixon did this (Nixon said "We are all Keynesians now"), it's pretty much the basis of all post-war economic policies, and I guarantee if there was an R in the office, we'd still be seeing record spending and deficits. If we didn't, things would be a lot worse than they are now.

Haha, not to sound like an apologist for Obama...


If people or the Nation were actually intelligent, we would not collect any debt at all.
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Re: Is Obama trying to bankrupt America?
Reply #7 - Mar 17th, 2010, 2:58pm
 
I am increasingly worried that the only long term solution is to bottom out and start all over again. It is impossible to change the system fast enough to avoid catastrophe. It is looking more and more like a problem without any solution...

Anyone agree?
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Re: Is Obama trying to bankrupt America?
Reply #8 - Mar 18th, 2010, 6:19am
 
mr.values wrote on Mar 17th, 2010, 2:58pm:
I am increasingly worried that the only long term solution is to bottom out and start all over again. It is impossible to change the system fast enough to avoid catastrophe. It is looking more and more like a problem without any solution...

Anyone agree?


Obama agrees. That is exactly what the Cloward Piven strategy advises. Destroy the existing system to make way for a new 'improved' one
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Re: Is Obama trying to bankrupt America?
Reply #9 - Mar 19th, 2010, 4:49pm
 
Nancyvideo wrote on Mar 18th, 2010, 6:19am:
Obama agrees. That is exactly what the Cloward Piven strategy advises. Destroy the existing system to make way for a new 'improved' one under their new communist regime.

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