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Reply #30 - 11/17/10 at 18:17:49
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Can We Ban Islam?


Why not? That cult is not a true religion, and its members are determined to conquer and subjugate the world, and to kill anyone who is not them.

They can burn for eternity in Hell, for all I care.

"Moderate Muslims?" Where the hell are they in their cries about the inhumanity to humans practiced by their brethern? Stoning women and raping them is encouraged? Where are they in their outcries about the atrocities committed by their fellow muzzies?

Show me some proof of loud and worldwidewide pronouncements of their uprisings for the denunciation of their comrades for their horrific practices, and I may revise my views.

"May" is the operative word: but not it's probable. This has gone beyond idiocy and into the world of absurd.
  
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Reply #31 - 01/08/11 at 19:51:57
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Weather or not we can, we should not. Don't agree with their beliefs? Good for you, neither do I, but so long as their Americans, they have the right to believe whatever they want. This is what separated us from fascist, theocratic Islamist regimes. We let people believe what they want, even if we don't agree with them.

This is why we still have the KKK, Peta, Communist organizations etc. They are allowed to believe, and say what they want.

To be frank, if we did this, the terrorists have won. They won because we abandoned our own principles, and adopted theirs.

I know a family of Muslims, and they're good, hardworking people who, believe it or not, vote Republican. A friend of mine, who is from said family of Muslims, once lamented that George W. Bush was a great president, so far as differentiating between people of that particular religion, and terrorists. Once Obama got elected, out the window went any sort of restraint from the right, or indeed, from much of the left.
  
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Reply #32 - 01/09/11 at 10:28:06
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... but so long as their Americans,


Many of them are NOT Americans, and none of them have the "right" to shove their cult down our throats and demand that we accept it.
  
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Reply #33 - 01/09/11 at 15:13:46
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Many of them are NOT Americans, and none of them have the "right" to shove their cult down our throats and demand that we accept it.


No, they don't have that right, and that's something that needs to stop, but we don't have the right to outright ban Islam. That's all I'm saying.
  
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Re: Can We Ban Islam?
Reply #34 - 03/18/11 at 10:20:30
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This is a somewhat older thread, but it speaks to me and therefore I'll comment:

No. Islam should not be banned. Period.

Our country was predicated on the fundamental freedom to worship as we please. When we find ourselves in a position to determine what a religion is, then we also find ourselves restricting that right to worship. While I personally find Islam to be abhorrent and completely nonsensical (except the part where Mohammad exhorts his people to kill us infidels - that part is very, very real), I am not in a position to dictate how a person worships that religion.

Or a pet rock. Or some dude named Buddha. Or any other person or entity in which a person looks for guidance, inspiration, peace, or any of a million things that we all seek from time to time.

We look outside of ourselves when we worship. We look for answers to questions that we cannot answer. These actions speak of faith, searching, and redemption.

Somebody upthread spoke toward it -- when we take definitive action to ban a religion, irrespective of how foul it is, the tyrants have won and we have lost.
  

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Re: Can We Ban Islam?
Reply #35 - 03/19/11 at 16:22:03
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This little hole in the wall smoke shop I go to where I buy my tea and coffee from is owned by a arab man who's Muslim. Never knew he was until we talked about religion. Nice guy. I can't judge him solely based on his religion though. I'm not like that.  my family is a toss up of Shinto/Buddhism and Christianity. But I firmly stand behind my beliefs of Christ.
  

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Reply #36 - 03/21/11 at 16:13:50
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I would think the answer would be rather easy. Sharia law violates every escence of the Constitution of the United States right down to the basics. So if Sharia law is unConstitutional then muzzieism must not only be banned butt like naziism and commieism it must be erradicated from the face of the earth.

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Re: Can We Ban Islam?
Reply #37 - 03/22/11 at 12:27:43
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mortarman wrote on 03/21/11 at 16:13:50:
I would think the answer would be rather easy. Sharia law violates every escence of the Constitution of the United States right down to the basics. So if Sharia law is unConstitutional then muzzieism must not only be banned butt like naziism and commieism it must be erradicated from the face of the earth.

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Well, Nazism is officially banned in Germany, but I'd say there are a few (scant few, as it turns out) folks who have adopted that form of socialism here in the States. They run around giving conservatives a bad name when, in fact, Nazism is simply a form of socialism whereby corporations are allowed to exist, but only under the auspices of the state.

Communism also hasn't been eradicated either. It's still very much alive and well in various spots over the world, and I dare say there's a Communist Party of the U.S. that espouses and preaches that social-economic model. And communism is still present in North Korea, Cuba, as well as China (though the Chinese have NO PROBLEM with the idea of turning profits).

  

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Re: Can We Ban Islam?
Reply #38 - 03/28/11 at 22:48:15
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The 1st Amendment prohibits the banning of Islam. If one religions is banned, precedence will be set; opening the door to ban all religions.

Sharia law should be banned. For the federal government to recognize that particular religious law would be an endorsement of a separate and religious law which is in direct with American legal traditions. The 1st Amendment prohibits this.

U.S. law is taken from English Common Law, which comes from the Magna Carta. The framework of American law was being laid down when our founding documents were written. American law is based on the Judeo/Christian ethic which is rooted in the Magna Carta. At the same time, American law has been secularized even though its roots come from the Judeo/Christian ethic.

To dismantle American law would be tantamount to dismantling our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

We cannot allow Sharia law to be used to dismantle our existing American legal system, a secular system at that.

Therefore, it is my belief that the United States should do all it can to prevent Sharia law from taking root. Legislation must be introduced reaffirming where American law came from. Additionally, the same legislation must make it illegal to allow any other legal system to be introduced, which ultimately would be used to subvert American legal traditions.

Islam cannot take over and destroy the US, unless we allow the camel's nose to work its way under the flap of the tent through the creeping incrementalism America haters have learned to exploit, whenever they try to subvert the American way of life.

The best thing the Tea Party can do is to make the banning of Sharia law one of its ideological plants. Furthermore, anyone who has Tea Party ties must begin pushing at the local level that the Tea Party takes up this issue prior to the 2012 election cycle, so that such a movement can be brought to the forefront of the American conscience.   (How's that for a run-on sentence?!? Cool )
  

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Reply #39 - 04/07/11 at 08:52:49
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Islam may be practiced by its believers, short of them doing physical acts against anyone, but the government needs to tell the theocratic part and the sharia part of it to stay out of the running of affairs of the people, Muslims included.  No other law trumps the Constitution in America, the same as no other law trumps Saudi Arabian law, for example.
  
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