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Reply #40 - 04/07/11 at 12:28:39
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mortarman wrote on 03/21/11 at 16:13:50:
I would think the answer would be rather easy. Sharia law violates every escence of the Constitution of the United States right down to the basics. So if Sharia law is unConstitutional then muzzieism must not only be banned butt like naziism and commieism it must be erradicated from the face of the earth.


If Socialism and Communism decided to call itself a "religion" (which it always has been in all but name anyway), THEN would the Constitution suddenly say that we must tolerate its followers' efforts to subvert every element of it?
  
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Re: Can We Ban Islam?
Reply #41 - 04/08/11 at 22:11:26
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If we were actually taught real history we would not be having this problem seeing Islam for what it is. We are products of the Public Schools. Furthermore, there would be no President Obama if it weren't for the indpctrination of public schools.
  
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Reply #42 - 04/19/11 at 14:19:29
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Declare it a cult and be done with it

It is subversive of the constitution by its very nature
  
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Re: Can We Ban Islam?
Reply #43 - 06/16/11 at 18:35:15
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Eupher wrote on 03/18/11 at 10:20:30:
This is a somewhat older thread, but it speaks to me and therefore I'll comment:

No. Islam should not be banned. Period.

Our country was predicated on the fundamental freedom to worship as we please. When we find ourselves in a position to determine what a religion is, then we also find ourselves restricting that right to worship. While I personally find Islam to be abhorrent and completely nonsensical (except the part where Mohammad exhorts his people to kill us infidels - that part is very, very real), I am not in a position to dictate how a person worships that religion.

Or a pet rock. Or some dude named Buddha. Or any other person or entity in which a person looks for guidance, inspiration, peace, or any of a million things that we all seek from time to time.

We look outside of ourselves when we worship. We look for answers to questions that we cannot answer. These actions speak of faith, searching, and redemption.

Somebody upthread spoke toward it -- when we take definitive action to ban a religion, irrespective of how foul it is, the tyrants have won and we have lost.


1.   Islam should not be protected under the 1st Amendment simply because Islam is not a religion.  I (and millions of others) claim Islam is not a religion. Of course we claim that. How naive could anybody be to be so snookered/hoodwinked/conned that they would believe that Islam is a religion. The idea of Islam being a religion is the world's biggest and longest-running con job.

Don't you know that the only reason Islam ever became a "religion" was to shield the founders from the severe criticism they know they would get as soon as they let loose with this insane abomination, on the populations of the 7th century ?

How do you expect people would react when you tell them > "Uh folks, I have an announcement to make. We have a new system setting up which we would like you to join with us in. It's called Islam.  It is going to involve massive genocide on 3 continents, severe misogyny (including wife beating), kidnapping, slavery, pedophilia, animal cruelty, torture, and mutilation. It's gonna be fun ! Are you with us ?"

So, instead of that insane scenario, to shield themselves, they needed something to force the people into accepting them and joining them. They found it > GOD. Something no one wants to go up against. So, with that, + killing all the ones who opposed them (270 million people over 1400 years), these uncivilized, barbaric, savages rampaged all over Asia Minor, southern Europe, and north Africa for over 100 years, conquering, all the while calling themselves a religion.  Nonsense.  Roll Eyes

2.  Islam, a supremacist political ideology, should be banned by virtue of its violation of Article 6 section 2 of the Constitution (the Supremacy Clause).  In a nutshell, the 1st Amendment allows people to practice a religion.  This, however is only within the confines that the religion does not supersede the Constitution, placing itself above all else.  Problem with Islam is, it does just that.  Shouldn't be any problem with banning Islam, as long as enough politicians can get their heads out of their you-know-whats to do it.
  
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Re: Can We Ban Islam?
Reply #44 - 06/21/11 at 11:31:23
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I just read the thread title and to that I have to say no.  BUT before you all jump down my throat, we can and should ban Sharia Law!!!  We have laws set forth in our Constitution, come to my Country obey our laws!!!  That includes taking off the head gear for divers license and any such thing that isn't permitted by *We The People*  We are *one Nation under God*, with freedom of religion for all.  Do I like it---NO, but we can't choice and pick the laws we like or don't like.
  

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Re: Can We Ban Islam?
Reply #45 - 06/24/11 at 23:13:41
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Ban Islamic cults from coast to coast. Make all schools union free, even the bus drivers.
Get lazy parents to get involved and get off the system.

Ban Islam, outright ban on any and all groups who mean to do America or American's harm of any kind. Actually, I'm glad I live in Missouri, just due to the fact that we have so many "Minutemen", extreme Ultra proud Americans who would rather die than to give an inch of our soil to anyone. Just as diehard as our Military men and women. But these guys and gals aren't getting Any pay for their efforts at all. Just proud Americans willing to do whatever it takes to keep our Country free.  Wink
  

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Reply #46 - 07/02/11 at 17:04:06
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We don't Ban Islam, we BOMB Islam.
  
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Re: Can We Ban Islam?
Reply #47 - 07/07/11 at 11:35:20
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The first question that must be answered is; "What is a religion?"  We must know this before we can utilize the 1st Amendment.

The second question is, "Is Islam a religion?"

If it is, then how does the 1st Amendment apply?  The answer is that it does not apply.  "The Congress shall make no law...."

Who, then has authority to control or outlaw Islam?

This is the kind of muddle that we are dealing with.  There is a precedent.
The Utah experience involved a religion which operated as a governmental authority, an example of just what the Constitution was designed to avoid.  Refering to my memory, which I admit grows dimmer with each passing week, the Mormons had to pledge their allegiance to the Constitution, and to agree to subjugate religious authority to state authority in order to gain admittance to the Union as a State.


All religions in the US, in order to enjoy the protection of the 1st Amendment, should make their allegiances clear.
This remedy, altering their creed so as to divorce religious and secular demands, should be offered to Islam in the US.  If they accept, matter closed.  If they do not, they should be treated as obversives.
Tough love.
  
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Re: Can We Ban Islam?
Reply #48 - 07/07/11 at 18:38:45
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cj_real_american wrote on 06/21/11 at 11:31:23:
I just read the thread title and to that I have to say no.  BUT before you all jump down my throat, we can and should ban Sharia Law!!!  We have laws set forth in our Constitution, come to my Country obey our laws!!!  That includes taking off the head gear for divers license and any such thing that isn't permitted by *We The People*  We are *one Nation under God*, with freedom of religion for all.  Do I like it---NO, but we can't choice and pick the laws we like or don't like.


I agree 100%
  
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Re: Can We Ban Islam?
Reply #49 - 07/14/11 at 06:15:05
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Picker wrote on 07/07/11 at 11:35:20:
The first question that must be answered is; "What is a religion?"  We must know this before we can utilize the 1st Amendment.

The second question is, "Is Islam a religion?"

If it is, then how does the 1st Amendment apply?  The answer is that it does not apply.  "The Congress shall make no law...."

Who, then has authority to control or outlaw Islam?

This is the kind of muddle that we are dealing with.  There is a precedent.
The Utah experience involved a religion which operated as a governmental authority, an example of just what the Constitution was designed to avoid.  Refering to my memory, which I admit grows dimmer with each passing week, the Mormons had to pledge their allegiance to the Constitution, and to agree to subjugate religious authority to state authority in order to gain admittance to the Union as a State.


All religions in the US, in order to enjoy the protection of the 1st Amendment, should make their allegiances clear.
This remedy, altering their creed so as to divorce religious and secular demands, should be offered to Islam in the US.  If they accept, matter closed.  If they do not, they should be treated as obversives.
Tough love.


Problem there is that Islam contains "taqiyya".  That is the Muslim art of lying for anything which promotes Islam, as it is and always has been.  So Muslims will say they are altering their creed, but all their vile practices (pedophilia, slavery, animal killing, wife-beating, etc) will go on behind closed doors.

  Islam has  already been given the chance to reform (as Christians did centuries ago).  They have never done it.  They follow the Koran and the evil parts of the Koran would have to be deleted for the creed to be altered.  In 1400 years, not one word of the Koran has ever been changed.

Only way to stop Islam and its awful creed is to abolish it - totally.  It should have already long been abolished based on its seditious character, in violation of the Constitution (Supremacy Clause).
  
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