Conservatives Forum.com The #1 Conservatives Forum on Google.com
Conservative News and Discussion Forum. Home of the Sisterhood Of the Sacred Skillet of Justice.
The NCO Club - Military Forum - Page 2 - Page 3 - CF Forums - Conservative News Source - Newsmax TV
Constitutional Issues - Candidates Action - Economy - Talk Radio Conservative News - Conservatives Directory
Sports - Health - Poetry - Entertainment - Cook, Crafts - Activists Forum - Conservative Activist - CF Chat
Conservative's ForumConservative's Discussion ForumsMilitary Discussion › Brainstorm - Our Past and Present Military on CF
Page Index Toggle Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 14 Send TopicPrint
Very Hot Topic (More than 25 Replies) Brainstorm - Our Past and Present Military on CF (Read 30,836 times)
CF Admin
CF Administrator
*****
Offline

Conservative's Forum

Posts: 4,260
Location: USA
Joined: 01/30/05
Brainstorm - Our Past and Present Military on CF
11/17/10 at 22:21:24
Print Post  
Brainstorm - Our Past and Present Military on CF
  
Back to top
WWW  
IP Logged
 
swamps_mom
Ex Member


Brainstorm - Our Past and Present Military on CF
Reply #1 - 11/05/07 at 08:15:17
Print Post  
With all this attention given to Steve (and it appreciate it) I thought we have so many heroes on our forum, why not have our vets and present military on the forum tell a story about their time serving. In graditute to you awesome men and women.  Either comical story or serious. OK who's going to start?  If this post belongs in another category NB pls feel free to move it.  RichC tell us about your son Mike
« Last Edit: 11/05/07 at 09:24:01 by »  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
duster
CF Presidents Club
*****
Offline

Thanks Cavvet, cool sig
banner

Posts: 5,701
Location: South Dakota
Joined: 11/06/05
Gender: Male
Re: Brainstorm - Our Past and Present Military on
Reply #2 - 11/05/07 at 08:59:39
Print Post  
I'll start.
I was in the US Army in the late 60's.  Went to Basic in Ft. Polk, LA.  Then to Ft. Wolters TX for warrant officers candidate school.  Then to FT Rucker, Alabama for flight school.  
I was already a commercially rated pilot before going into the army with a full season of cropdusting under my belt.  That gave me a leg up on most of the other guys.  After Ft. Rucker I went to Germany and from there to Pleiku, Vietnam in early Feb 1968.  Got there just in time for the Tet offensive.  
Once there I flew an 01 Birddog directing artillery fire, locating and marking targets for the fast guys, flying radio relay, chasing nurses, etc.

A good place to see what we did can be found at;

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.talkingproud.us/ImagesHistory/...

About the only people that know what us FACs did are combat vets.  While I am quite proud of what I did, I certainly don't consider any of it heroic.  After all, I was able to come home.

Here's an article about a couple of the real heroes that were doing what we did.

http://www.100megsfree2.com/jjscherr/scherr/Ramsay.htm
  

&&Intellectual: Uses more words than necessary to tell you more than he knows
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
ardent_conservativ
Ex Member


Re: Brainstorm - Our Past and Present Military on
Reply #3 - 11/05/07 at 09:24:08
Print Post  
I joined the USAF in 1969.  After finishing basic training I went to Kessler AB in Boloxi, MS and attended electronics tech school.  While at Kessler we had bed check, revely, class A passes, details, and KP.  If we messed up and washed out of tech school we were generally sent to the sanitation department to operate one armed "steam shovels".  The military had discipline and enforced it. Then while at Kessler the Congress passed a "privacy" law that did away with the bed check, revely, class A Passes, details, and KP. 

After Kessler I was sent to the Philippines where I spent 15 months in the USAF communications service.  I was a combat communications specialist that repaired, operated, and brought on line "line of sight" multiplex communication equipment.  We operated two systems while at Clark AFB.  One was a 24 channel multiplex system that allowed 24 subscribers to talk at the same time.  Another was a 150 channel multiplex system.  While serving in the Philippines I saw the POW"s from Vietnam return home.  Then I was rotated back to the US to Tinker AFB in Oklahoma where I finsihed my 4 years in the AF.  After my discharge I served another 6 years in the Air National Guard. 

I thourghly enjoyed my tour of the Philippines.  I knew a Philippino named Mario. He and I used to go around the bars of Angeles City hustling pool.  One of my favorite memories that I have already told on the forum is Mario had been trying to get me to eat some barbecued dog, a favorite dish in the Philippines.  One night he talked me into trying it.  We went to his favorite eatery, ordered the dog, and I put a piece in my mouth.  The longer I chewed it the bigger it got.  Finally I spit the dog out, shoved the plate to Mario, and told him to eat it I couldn't.  He sat there laughing at me the whole time he was eating the dog. 

Cool Cool Cool Cool
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Subvet
Ex Member


Re: Brainstorm - Our Past and Present Military on
Reply #4 - 11/05/07 at 13:16:11
Print Post  
Well, how do I begin?  I guess like this:

I joined when I was 17 and went of to serve aboard the USS SAM HOUSTON (SSN 609) from 1982 to 1986.  That boat was an old boomer that was converted to conduct SEAL insertion and recovery.  I went from E-1 to E-5 during that tour.  I served on the USS LAFAYETTE (SSBN 616) (Gold) from 1986 to 1987.  I hated SSBN operations (way too boring) so I requested a transfer and went to the USS TREPANG (SSN 674) from 1987 to 1991.  I made Chief (E-7) on that boat and the folks back at the bureau realized I had done 9 years at sea and forced me to go to shore duty.  (At the time, the maximum sea tour was 5 years).
Under duress, I went to the Weapons facility at NAVMAG LUALUALIE in Hawaii from 1991 to 1994.  I was selected to serve as the Force Ordnance Officer on the staff of the Commander Submarine Force, US Pacific Fleet (COMSUBPAC) and served there from 1994-1996.  I then transferred to the USS PHILADELPHIA (SSN 690) to serve as the Weapons Department Leading Chief from 1996-2001.  I left the “Philly” and returned to COMSUBPAC back out in Pearl and retired from active duty in 2003. 

Since I didn’t get enough of Submarines while I was in, I began working for the Navy again, this time as a civilian until present and occasionally go to sea on these remarkable vessels.

Unfortunately, I cannot participate in tales of missions and such.  Like any other Submariner, we tend to be pretty tight lipped about what we did and most of us (except for the idiots who leaked stories to novel writers who knew what bar to go to) refuse to talk about it even amongst ourselves.  The whole “silent service” motto kicks in. What I can say is that I spent a lot of time away from home (over ten years total) and missed pretty much everything you can think of (Funerals, weddings, kid’s first steps, blah blah blah)

The worst part of being a submariner is having someone point at one of your medals and ask “what was that for” and you say the phrase you have been taught to say since day one:  “I can’t tell you.”

We used to also use that phrase when our wives would ask when we are coming home or when we would be able to call from overseas.

More to follow.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Nyte_Byrd
CF Presidents Club
*****
Offline

Talk is Cheep

Posts: 56,998
Joined: 05/09/06
Gender: Male
Re: Brainstorm - Our Past and Present Military on
Reply #5 - 11/05/07 at 13:39:21
Print Post  
I will sticky this one here for awhyle.  Then I will move it to the Military forum after it's had sufficient comments to add.  I thought we actually had one of these on Military forum, but it may have been one of the posts that we lost in crash some months ago.

I am Navy veteran (1974-1977) and was in Reserves as well after active duty discharge.  YN3 (E4).  Served aboard
USS Mount Vernon (LSD-39) which was one of the ships off Nam coast back in April 1975 picking up Vietnamese evacuees to bring them to the Philippines.  Was in drydock in Portland, Oregon, as well as Philippines, and in port San Diego.  Went on one WestPac where I got to make port visits to Hong Kong, Japan and Taiwan.  I spend a good seven months in the Philippines.   My ship was also one that steamed towards Cambodia when USS Mayaguez was seized but other ships got there ahead of us.
  


If You're Here To Teach....Then You've Much To Learn.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
swamps_mom
Ex Member


Re: Brainstorm - Our Past and Present Military on
Reply #6 - 11/05/07 at 15:35:34
Print Post  
Quote:
Well, how do I begin?  I guess like this:

I joined when I was 17 and went of to serve aboard the USS SAM HOUSTON (SSN 609) from 1982 to 1986.  That boat was an old boomer that was converted to conduct SEAL insertion and recovery.  I went from E-1 to E-5 during that tour.  I served on the USS LAFAYETTE (SSBN 616) (Gold) from 1986 to 1987.  I hated SSBN operations (way too boring) so I requested a transfer and went to the USS TREPANG (SSN 674) from 1987 to 1991.  I made Chief (E-7) on that boat and the folks back at the bureau realized I had done 9 years at sea and forced me to go to shore duty.  (At the time, the maximum sea tour was 5 years).
Under duress, I went to the Weapons facility at NAVMAG LUALUALIE in Hawaii from 1991 to 1994.  I was selected to serve as the Force Ordnance Officer on the staff of the Commander Submarine Force, US Pacific Fleet (COMSUBPAC) and served there from 1994-1996.  I then transferred to the USS PHILADELPHIA (SSN 690) to serve as the Weapons Department Leading Chief from 1996-2001.  I left the “Philly” and returned to COMSUBPAC back out in Pearl and retired from active duty in 2003.  

Since I didn’t get enough of Submarines while I was in, I began working for the Navy again, this time as a civilian until present and occasionally go to sea on these remarkable vessels.

Unfortunately, I cannot participate in tales of missions and such.  Like any other Submariner, we tend to be pretty tight lipped about what we did and most of us (except for the idiots who leaked stories to novel writers who knew what bar to go to) refuse to talk about it even amongst ourselves.  The whole “silent service” motto kicks in. What I can say is that I spent a lot of time away from home (over ten years total) and missed pretty much everything you can think of (Funerals, weddings, kid’s first steps, blah blah blah)

The worst part of being a submariner is having someone point at one of your medals and ask “what was that for” and you say the phrase you have been taught to say since day one:  “I can’t tell you.”

We used to also use that phrase when our wives would ask when we are coming home or when we would be able to call from overseas.

More to follow.

Steve's dad was 17 also on Navy Destroyer SV.  I know a Marine who when I ask questions about Iraq (he's been there 4 times I think) he changes the subject.  I thought because he was modest, or didn't want to think about it but now I wonder if they're still today told not to talk about it.  Undecided
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
JonH
CF Presidents Club
*****
Offline

Retired old soldier and
extremely proud of it!

Posts: 1,874
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 01/27/07
Gender: Male
Re: Brainstorm - Our Past and Present Military on
Reply #7 - 11/05/07 at 16:29:14
Print Post  
I'll throw my two cents in.  I was in the first draft lottery but my number was 112 (they only got up to 110 that year), so I went back to work in radio.  My wife and I were expecting our first child when I lost my job at the station.  I knew the military had radio stations overseas and, seeing as how I knew the recruiters from doing their PSA's for them, went and talked to the AF and Army recruiter.  The AF treated me like the typical walk-in (dumb as a box of rocks and don't bother me again, son) so I tested for the Army. 

Being a HS diploma grad and scoring in the top 5% on the ASVAB, the Army recruiter moved in and monitored my every move.  Of course, I could be a broadcaster in the Army...just go to Atlanta and sign up.  Well, the "career counselor" in Atlanta told me they didn't have broadcasters in the Army; however, if I took infantry and Europe, all I would have to do is tell my company commander my qualifications and he would see to it that I would get to AFN.  Bought it hook, line and sinker!

Went to Ft. Puke, LA for boot camp and AIT (where I was told by the senior drill that the day I made E5 he would get out of the Army).  My first tour was in Erlangen, Germany as a member of the now defunct 1/46 Inf in the 1st Armored Division.  As a side note, after I'd been in the unit for about a year, the CO did ask what the hell I was doing in the infantry.  I told him what the career counselor had said and he actually gave me a pass the next day to go to AFN for an audition.  Because I had received a bonus for enlisting and infantry was a shortage MOS at the time, division wouldn't allow me to transfer.

After Germany, I went to Ft. Benign, GA where they were waiting on me.  Turns out my battalion XO had sent a letter in advance of my arrival, extolling my virtues apparently, and when I reported in, I was directed straight to the Infantry School Command Sergeant Major's office.  I wound up spending three years in the Infantry School in a variety of positions, all of which I was far too junior to serve.

I kinda liked the Army and decided to become that dreaded "careerist" (otherwise known as a lifer).  Went back to Germany for another tour, which I can't talk about for fear of spending the rest of my life beneath some federal prison cell.  Got drafted to be a recruiter (!), wound up in Nebraska where the cattle outnumber the kids four to one and the cattle's IQ was 10 points over most of the kids. 

On to Ft. Cartoon, CO for the time of my life.  I started as an infantry squad leader (a great job), took over the battalion support platoon (as an E6) and then got the best assignment in the Army:  I became an infantry platoon sergeant!  D Co 1/8 Inf was my home for that period of time.  Being a platoon sergeant is the most rewarding position there possibly can be in the Army and, perhaps, anywhere. 

My ex decided I spent too much time away from home and, after deciding on her own what was best for my career, she and the NCO Academy Commandant politicked me into transferring to the NCO Academy as an instructor.  My last assignment was due to that as I was selected to become a senior ROTC instructor at Eastern Michigan University.

That's a 20 year career in a nutshell.  Not a whole hell of a lot to talk about (get me lubricated enough and I do have a few war stories to tell...especially about demo and the difference between using a non-electric firing device and an electric, but that's another story).
  

Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:  Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.  One died for your soul, the other for your freedom!
Back to top
YIMAIM  
IP Logged
 
swamps_mom
Ex Member


Re: Brainstorm - Our Past and Present Military on
Reply #8 - 11/05/07 at 16:41:16
Print Post  
Nyte_Byrd wrote on 11/05/07 at 13:39:21:
I will sticky this one here for awhyle.  Then I will move it to the Military forum after it's had sufficient comments to add.  I thought we actually had one of these on Military forum, but it may have been one of the posts that we lost in crash some months ago.

I am Navy veteran (1974-1977) and was in Reserves as well after active duty discharge.  YN3 (E4).  Served aboard
USS Mount Vernon (LSD-39) which was one of the ships off Nam coast back in April 1975 picking up Vietnamese evacuees to bring them to the Philippines.  Was in drydock in Portland, Oregon, as well as Philippines, and in port San Diego.  Went on one WestPac where I got to make port visits to Hong Kong, Japan and Taiwan.  I spend a good seven months in the Philippines.   My ship was also one that steamed towards Cambodia when USS Mayaguez was seized but other ships got there ahead of us.  

What was it like in the Philippines at that time?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Nyte_Byrd
CF Presidents Club
*****
Offline

Talk is Cheep

Posts: 56,998
Joined: 05/09/06
Gender: Male
Re: Brainstorm - Our Past and Present Military on
Reply #9 - 11/05/07 at 18:23:09
Print Post  
Quote:
What was it like in the Philippines at that time?


Martial law back then.  Could tell you tons of the adventures there.  Was my favorite port.  Ya get to see people who take nothing for granted. 

I was thankful for the roosters that woke me up to get back to the ship on tyme!!  Cheesy
  


If You're Here To Teach....Then You've Much To Learn.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 14
Send TopicPrint
 
Conservative's ForumConservative's Discussion ForumsMilitary Discussion › Brainstorm - Our Past and Present Military on CF


ConservativesForum.com
CF Forums
The NCO Club - Military Forum - Constitutional Issues - Political Polls - Candidates Action - Economy
Conservative News Sources Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin forums
Political Activism, Strategy, Blogs - Conservative Sites - Games - Sports - Health - Poetry - Cooking - Library
Gun Rights - Conspiracy Theories - Page 2 - Page 3 - Page 4 - Page 5


Conservatives Directory
Recent conservative sites added:
Breitbart News
Drudge Report
Sean Hannity Show
Rush Limbaugh
FrontPage Magazine
Rasmussen Reports
David Limbaugh
American Conservative Union
Accuracy in Media
News Busters
Right Bias
Newt Gingrich
Chicks on the Right
Mark Levin Show
Tea Party Patriots
Phyllis Schlafly Report
Conservative News
TruthUSA
Michelle Malkin
RightWingStuff.com
Right Wing News
Accuracy in Academia
The American Thinker
Hotair
Powerline Blog
Conservative News Source
Conservative Activist

Conservative Blogs
Proudvet's Blog
Opinion Editorials
Political Polls
Twitter CF
Conservatives Directory Add Your Site
Conservative Blog Advertising
Forum Rules, User Agreement and Privacy Policy
Registering Information and Forum Rules