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Reply #10 - 04/27/12 at 10:08:37
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Shooterman wrote on 04/26/12 at 20:26:48:
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;



I like this one...they have interpretted it to mean that they can fund the NEA... ridiculous interpretation.
  
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Reply #11 - 04/27/12 at 10:21:52
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arch51 wrote on 04/27/12 at 10:08:37:
I like this one...they have interpretted it to mean that they can fund the NEA... ridiculous interpretation.


Arch, my entire purpose was to give the 'modern day needs of interpretation' crowd, every chance to show us ( me ) how they can justify many of the actions, they, as so called conservatives, believe and agitate for. Some call me a liberal, because of my stance on issues, but can not show me, or have not shown me, exactly those points I am liberal on. I thought this might prompt a few to give it their best shot. Alas, it seems he that wishes to call me liberal, is having none of it. The challenge is there. Show me what should be 'modernly interpreted' and why?
  

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Reply #12 - 04/27/12 at 10:27:04
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personally, I don't believe that the Constitution needs to be "modernly interpreted", other than to include such things as the internet into frreedom of the press.
  
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Reply #13 - 04/27/12 at 10:31:47
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arch51 wrote on 04/27/12 at 10:27:04:
personally, I don't believe that the Constitution needs to be "modernly interpreted", other than to include such things as the internet into frreedom of the press.


Unfortunately, Arch, those like us are in the minority.
  

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Reply #14 - 04/27/12 at 10:54:27
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The primary reason our constitution has worked so well for so long is that it's the only system of govrnment in history that considers human nature.  Something today's power brokers choose to ignore.
  

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Reply #15 - 04/27/12 at 18:33:49
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I need some definitions.

It says,
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years

That reads to me that you can't use taxpayer money to fund a war lasting longer than 2 years?  What does it mean?

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To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States

This seems to say congress has power to regulate or oversee or helpout in bankruptcies? To me this would mean they could bailout CA or any other state, but last year I kept hearing government couldn't do that.
  

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Reply #16 - 04/27/12 at 18:49:06
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1goofball wrote on 04/27/12 at 18:33:49:
I need some definitions.

It says,
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years

That reads to me that you can't use taxpayer money to fund a war lasting longer than 2 years?  What does it mean?

and

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States

This seems to say congress has power to regulate or oversee or helpout in bankruptcies? To me this would mean they could bailout CA or any other state, but last year I kept hearing government couldn't do that.


They can't and won't because it's too much of a risk to our entire economic foundation.  Some believe they should allow states to file.
  
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Reply #17 - 04/28/12 at 15:10:39
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Shooter I just had to bump this, it's so important, and so few realize that Congress has very limited power.  Wink  I'm not referring to anyone, just thought some may want to copy this and give it to a school kid today.  Wink  We have several copies of the Constitution and we have given out volumes so that people can educated themselves.
  

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Reply #18 - 04/28/12 at 17:49:27
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Shooterman wrote on 04/26/12 at 20:26:48:
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;


With respect, I can see where this might give the NOTION of foreign aid because in retrospect there is commerce that comes with it.  Just saying.

But to be fair I don't think the Founding Father's thought we would become a Super Power, once again just saying. Smiley
  
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Reply #19 - 04/28/12 at 18:35:06
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jrc99 wrote on 04/28/12 at 17:49:27:
With respect, I can see where this might give the NOTION of foreign aid because in retrospect there is commerce that comes with it.  Just saying.


Congress and SCOTUS have bastardized the Commerce Clause to include a plethora of things the Founders never envisioned or intended. I don't believe foreign aid was one of them.

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But to be fair I don't think the Founding Father's thought we would become a Super Power, once again just saying. Smiley


I am quite sure you are correct. The Founders were learned men and knew the pitfalls every large Empire had gotten involved in and how they had been brought to their knees.
  

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