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Reply #40 - 05/03/12 at 05:50:39
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Came across this from GOP/USA: "Pro-life supporters were dealt a setback as the Oklahoma Supreme Court ruled that a ballot initiative regarding the "personhood" status of the unborn was unconstitutional. The court said the proposed ballot measure conflicted with the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling on Roe v. Wade.

he highest court in Oklahoma ruled that the personhood amendment backers hoped to get on the state ballot is unconstitutional. The court blocked it, saying it was "void on its face" because the nation's highest court has already ruled on the issue of abortion.

Personhood Oklahoma, a state affiliate of Personhood USA, filed the ballot initiative on March 1 hoping to be able to have until the end of May to gather the 15,000 required signatures needed to get the measure, that would purportedly ban abortions, on the state ballot.

While some pro-life advocates support Personhood Amendments, others recognize the only way to end abortions is to first change the makeup of the Supreme Court to pave the way for the reversal of Roe v. Wade. They have said courts, like the Oklahoma Supreme Court, will overturn Personhood Amendments as conflicting with Roe until the high court has a better composition of judges -- which can only be obtained by defeating pro-abortion President Barack Obama this November.

Read the full story at LifeNews.com"

To this untutored eye, this looks as if they mixed apples and oranges, and came up with watermelons. While an abortion involves an unborn child, it also involves a medical procedure. The legality of the procedure was focus of the debate, and it was declared to be illegal.

The ballot case involved personhood, which while it was a component of the abortion debate, was not its main target. One may conclude that the Court improperly excluded the second case from consideration, base on precedent established by a previous, irrelevant case.

(Now, I'll demolish my own argument. The medical procedure involved in an abortion was determined to be legal in its own right, whether the target were an unborn child or a tumor. Thus, the personhood of the unborn had already been ruled on in the previous case, establishing precedent.)

Now, I need some coffee.

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Reply #41 - 05/09/12 at 21:23:58
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Wing #1 of the American eagle deals with problem solving and the wing of compassion.  The wing is sensitive to the unfulfilled needs of the people.  Wing #2 has the responsibility of conserving the nation's resources and the people's freedom.  It's function is to analyze the programs of wing #1 with two questions: First, can we afford it?  Second, what will it do to the rights and individual freedom of the people?  If either of these wings falls asleep on the job, the eagle will drift toward anarchy(right) or tyranny(left).  On the political spectrum guess which wing slants toward liberalism and which wing slants toward conservatism?  INfo obtained from the book "The 5000 Year Leap."  Pick it up my good conservative colleagues.
  
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Reply #42 - 05/12/12 at 10:27:58
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Google The 5,000 year leap. Then click on the amazon url. This will give a revealing peek into a remarkable book. That peek strongly suggests that the book will answer many, maybe all of the questions pertaining to understanding the Constitution.
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Reply #43 - 07/01/12 at 18:30:21
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All politicians are corrupt to some degree.  They can't get elected without owing someone something.
  

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Reply #44 - 02/07/13 at 14:58:17
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I personally believe that if we treat the document as a living document we will eventually end up with no Constitution and ruled un tyrany.
  
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