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Reply #10 - 02/04/15 at 14:44:02
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I disagree with Hillary, Obama and Kennedy that  scared parents when they said the measles vaccine could cause autism when there is no proof.

I disagree with Obama letting many illegals in with diseases and haven't been vaccinated.
  
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Reply #11 - 02/04/15 at 15:10:46
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My daughter HAS an autism spectrum disorder (what it's called today), and my life with her has been very hard.

However, indications of it were present as an infant, and before she received any vaccinations.

The study that proposed the link between autism and vaccinations was discredited some time ago.  "Celebrities" like Jenny McCarthy put out this crap and it's still floating around.  The doctor that put the study out has lost his medical license.  But, don't let facts get in the way of hysteria.

How about the illegals having been vaccinated before turned loose on the rest of the USA?  How about a quarantine time before turning them loose on the rest of us?

Although I like the concept of PARENTS being allowed to choose for their own kids, this might be one area I could bend on.  No vaccination, no public school.

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Re: Vaccinations and the measles outbreak
Reply #12 - 02/04/15 at 16:16:16
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I am of two minds on this vaccination issue.  On the one side, I think kids/people should be vaccinated against as many diseases as possible.  (I’m old, so I had measles, mumps and chicken pox as a child.  There were no vaccinations then. I’d get a booster now if they told me I wasn’t immune anymore.)

On the other side, today the daily caller came out with this article
http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/03/obama-admin-grants-immunity-to-cdc-scientist-t...

which would make many people start to wonder about how great vaccinations research really is. If you leave out significant information, hum……...  Do we have another “the science is settled” thing like with global warming?    It makes me suspicious.

In addition, being strong armed into giving kids vaccination steps on a slippery slope.   Do any of us have enough faith in the government to believe they wouldn’t try something sneaky if the wrong people got into power? I kind of want to leave the door open to being able to say no to a vaccination that I am suspicious of.

One question I have is why is California getting all the hoopla on this?  Ohio had both measles and a mumps outbreak last year that was bigger than the California thing.  The Amish got blamed for the measles and an OSU student got blamed for the mumps.  I see a little scapegoating in this, but I could be wrong. 
http://www.odh.ohio.gov/features/odhfeatures/Measles%202014.aspx
http://www.odh.ohio.gov/features/odhfeatures/Mumps.aspx

Another question is what other states had outbreaks of what? If they did, why didn’t the media jump on it?

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Re: Vaccinations and the measles outbreak
Reply #13 - 02/04/15 at 17:12:22
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Snopes does a pretty good job of analyzing internet rumors.  They say that the story in the Daily Caller about the CDC cover up is not true.  It is a long essay and I didn't read all the details, but for anyone who wants to dig into it, here is the link:

http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cdcwhistleblower.asp

This is from the beginning of the Snopes article:

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On 24 August 2014 a CNN iReport claiming intentional suppression of data relating to 340% increased risk of autism among specific populations of African-American boys following MMR vaccinations went viral. The story seemed to disappear mysteriously, further fueling the notion that an intentional coverup was underway.

The idea that vaccines lead to autism is not a new conspiracy theory, nor is it a particularly uncommon one. A now heavily discredited study published in the medical
journal Lancet in 1998 planted a seed of fear about vaccine safety; and despite efforts to counteract the widespread concern among worried parents, public health officials continue to encounter growing public resistance to vaccination.
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cdcwhistleblower.asp#GPs0OHQSMliVY4ZL.99
  

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Re: Vaccinations and the measles outbreak
Reply #14 - 02/04/15 at 17:29:42
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Snopes does a pretty good job of analyzing internet rumors.  They say that the story in the Daily Caller about the CDC cover up is not true.  It is a long essay and I didn't read all the details, but for anyone who wants to dig into it, here is the link:


Sorry, I am not impressed with Snopes or the CDC.  The truth will unfold, eventually.  But it is still a slippery slope to step on if you are going to mandate vaccines.  
  

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Reply #15 - 02/05/15 at 05:46:17
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Naturalized-Texan wrote on 02/04/15 at 12:34:22:
It's obvious that the current measles outbreak is the result of all those unvaccinated illegal immigrant children who poured into the U.S. last Summer.


I don't think those kids are going to Disney.   
  
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Reply #16 - 02/05/15 at 06:47:01
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Reply #17 - 02/05/15 at 10:14:00
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I don't think those kids are going to Disney.  


Seriously, dude, have you ever been anywhere near a Disney park?  Those places are full of foreigners who hail from all sorts of places that have much less stringent requirements for vaccination than we do here.
  
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Re: Vaccinations and the measles outbreak
Reply #18 - 02/05/15 at 15:32:06
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Seriously, dude, have you ever been anywhere near a Disney park?  Those places are full of foreigners who hail from all sorts of places that have much less stringent requirements for vaccination than we do here.


They should mandate vaccines if you want to go into Disney World.  This is how crazy it *can* get if you let the Government take control and do any mandating.
  

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Re: Vaccinations and the measles outbreak
Reply #19 - 02/05/15 at 15:47:49
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I believe in Freedom of Choice, and parents should be able to exercise it on certain vaccines.  There has been more damage caused by vaccines than people are aware of, and they should be informed of side effects and risks.

That said, I believe in vaccines, but I don't believe a child needs 33 0f them.  The vaccines should not be given bunches at a time, but should be spaced out more to minimize a shock to the nervous system.
  
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