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02/07/15 at 19:38:36
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Found this in my email bucket:
[quote]I'm a 54 year old consulting engineer and make between $60,000 and $125,000 per year, depending on how hard I work and whether or not there are work projects out there for me.
My girlfriend is 61 and makes about $18,000 per year, working as a part-time mail clerk.
For me, making $60,000 a year, under ObamaCare, the cheapest, lowest grade policy I can buy, which also happens to impose a $5,000 deductible, costs $482 per month.
For my girlfriend, the same exact policy, same deductible, costs $1 per month. That's right, $1 per month. I'm not making this up.
Don't believe me? Just go to http://www.coveredca.gov/<http://www.coveredca.gov/>; Straight from the California web site.
So OK, clearly ObamaCare is a scheme that involves putting the cost burden of healthcare onto the middle and upper-income wage earners. But there's a lot more to it. Stick with me.
And before I make my next points, I'd like you to think about something:
I live in Monterey County, in Central California. We have a large land mass but just 426,000 residents - about the population of Colorado Springs or the city of Omaha.
But we do have a large Hispanic population, including a large number of illegal aliens, and to serve this group we have Natividad Medical Center, a massive, Federally subsidized county medical complex that takes up an area about one-third the size of the Chrysler Corporation automobile assembly plant in Belvedere, Illinois. Natividad has state-of-the-art operating rooms, Computed Tomography and Magnetic Resonance Imaging, fully equipped, 24 hour emergency room, and much more. If you have no insurance, if you've been in a drive-by shooting or have overdosed on crack cocaine, this is where you go. And it's essentially free, because almost everyone who ends up in the ER is uninsured.

Last year, 2,735 babies were born at Natividad. 32% of these were born to out-of-wedlock teenage mothers, 93% of which were Hispanic. Less than 20% could demonstrate proof of citizenship, and 71% listed their native language as Spanish. Of these 876 births, only 40 were covered under [any kind of] private health insurance. The taxpayers paid for the other 836. And in case you were wondering about the entire population - all 2,735 births - less than 24% involved insured coverage or even partial payment on behalf of the patient to the hospital in exchange for services. Keep this in mind as we move forward.

Now consider this:
If I want to upgrade my policy to a low-deductible premium policy, such as what I had with my last employer, my cost is $886 per month. But my girlfriend can upgrade her policy to the very same level, for just $4 per month. That's right, $4 p.m. $48 per year for a zero-deductible, premium healthcare policy - the kind of thing you get when you work at IBM (except of course, IBM employees pay an average of $170 per month out of pocket for their coverage).
I mean, it's bad enough that I will be forced to subsidize the ObamaCare scheme in the first place. But even if I agreed with the basic scheme, which of course I do not, I would never agree to subsidize premium policies. If I have to pay $482 a month for a budget policy, I sure as hell do not want the guy I'm subsidizing to get a better policy, for less that 1% of what I have to fork out each month for a low-end policy.

Why must I pay $482 per month for something the other guy gets for a dollar? And why should the other guy get to buy an $886 policy for $4 a month? Think about this: I have to pay $10,632 a year for the same thing that the other guy can get for $48. $10,000 of net income is 60 days of full time work as an engineer. $48 is something I could pay for collecting aluminum cans and plastic bottles, one day a month.
Are you with me on this? Are you starting to get an idea what ObamaCare is really about?

(Cont. below)

  

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Reply #1 - 02/07/15 at 19:39:40
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ObamaCare is not about dealing with inequities in the healthcare system. That's just the cover story. The real story is that it is a massive, political power grab. Do you think anyone who can insure himself with a premium policy for $4 a month will vote for anyone but the political party that provides him such a deal? ObamaCare is about enabling, subsidizing, and expanding the Left's political power base, at taxpayer expense. Why would I vote for anyone but a Democrat if I can have babies for $4 a month? For that matter, why would I go to college or strive for a better job or income if it means I have to pay real money for healthcare coverage? Heck, why study engineering when I can be a schlub for $20K per year and buy a new F-150 with all the money I'm saving?

And think about those $4-a-month babies - think in terms of propagation models. Think of just how many babies will be born to irresponsible, under-educated mothers. Will we get a new crop of brain surgeons and particle physicists from the dollar baby club, or will we need more cops, criminal courts and prisons? One thing you can be certain of: At $4 a month, they'll multiply, and multiply, and multiply.

ObamaCare: It's all about political power.
  

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Reply #2 - 02/07/15 at 19:52:03
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Thank you for posting this, it was informative and very disturbing to see what happens when we elect Marxists to run this country into the ground. He right on when he said that these people that are living on those that make a living and pay for the HC of those that don't will never vote for someone that wants to upset their apple cart and kill off their cash cow.
  
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Reply #3 - 02/07/15 at 22:05:00
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I've read all the programs ( silver, bronze, etc. ) and you are correct about the policy prices. However , I have only seen outrageously high deductibles...thousands of dollars before coverage begins. Perhaps Calif is different. But it doesn't matter anyway...they aren't going to EVER pay for the deductibles. It simply boils down to free healthcare for the " poor ".
  

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Reply #4 - 02/08/15 at 12:11:47
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on_the_virge wrote on 02/07/15 at 22:05:00:
I've read all the programs ( silver, bronze, etc. ) and you are correct about the policy prices. However , I have only seen outrageously high deductibles...thousands of dollars before coverage begins. Perhaps Calif is different. But it doesn't matter anyway...they aren't going to EVER pay for the deductibles. It simply boils down to free healthcare for the " poor ".

That was the goal. And for the illegal beaners and border jumpers too. You will be picking up the costs for their health insurance while being burdened by your own costs. Welcome to el-Bamaville.
  

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Reply #5 - 02/08/15 at 13:44:34
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What's even harder to understand is the idiots who will continue to vote for that traitorous party.
If we elect "Hitlery", we'll eventually end up with a dictator.
  

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Reply #6 - 02/08/15 at 15:25:04
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It's just another redistribution Ponzi scheme.

There is NO LIMITATION or incentive to not keep having kids YOU CANNOT AFFORD.

I remember during Clinton's presidency, trying to act on the "Contract With America," when all the whining about limitation on how many kids it would pay for on welfare.  All the libs saying "but you can't punish THE CHILDREN."  They wanted to cap payments at 3 kids.

WE THE PEOPLE are paying for ANOTHER COUNTRY'S problems.  Not to mention the deadbeats who are home grown.

IT CANNOT LAST.

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