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Poll Question: Should Iran Be Allowed To Have A Nuclear Weapon?
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Re: Should Iran Be Allowed To Have A Nuclear Weapon?
Reply #10 - 03/04/15 at 07:04:12
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Shooterman wrote on 03/03/15 at 20:41:54:
It seems you have this overwhelming desire to speak for me, FP. I'm not sure why that is so, but seemingly it is.



I also have a problem with the interference into the affairs of a For your information, it is not so much I don't have a problem with it as it is the blatant and raw hypocrisy of the nations that already have them.sovereign country.

So far we have weathered the Russki's, China Men, Brits, French, Pakis and Indians, along with Little Son Fool Do ( after Mr Bush swore that wouldn't happen and tried to buy the Little Booger off, and he now has them.

It is Israel's problem. Let them take care of it.



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It seems you have this overwhelming desire to speak for me, FP. I'm not sure why that is so, but seemingly it is.


Not really. Goof just said in his post that everyone basically agrees that Iran should not have a Nuclear weapon. From past conversations with you , that's the conclusion I have gotten.

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For your information, it is not so much I don't have a problem with it as it is the blatant and raw hypocrisy of the nations that already have them.


Okay, then where do you stand on Iran having a nuclear weapon?


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nations that already have them.sovereign country
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Name a country that has Nuclear weapons that has the ideology of Iran in full control?



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So far we have weathered the Russki's, China Men, Brits, French, Pakis and Indians, along with Little Son Fool


I don't see Iran's Government/ideology in any of those countries mention.
  
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Re: Should Iran Be Allowed To Have A Nuclear Weapon?
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Not really. Goof just said in his post that everyone basically agrees that Iran should not have a Nuclear weapon. From past conversations with you , that's the conclusion I have gotten.


What I have maintained is one sovereign nation, unless attacked by another sovereign nation, has absolutely no business interfering in the affairs of that nation.

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Okay, then where do you stand on Iran having a nuclear weapon?


I prefer they not have a NUCLEAR WEAPONS but I damned sure am not going to lose sleep over the matter if they acquire one. I lived through the Russki's getting one, China acquiring one, we gave them to the Brits and French, we heard the world was headed for nuclear holocaust when India and Pakistan got them, the Western Pacific would surely go communist, crazy, deteriorate into smoldering ruins if N Korea got a nuke.

All, so far, has been Bull Crap, with those propagating the BS making tons of money off of their chicanery. How many more lives do we have to expend on the field of battle before we learn?

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Name a country that has Nuclear weapons that has the ideology of Iran in full control?


Russia, China, Pakistan, N Korea, possible Venezuela. They all have ideologies much different than ours.

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I don't see Iran's Government/ideology in any of those countries mention.


We had a huge Cold War that lasted for decades with the Russians and Chinese, whereby billions of bucks were made off the fears instilled in the American people. Entire careers spanned those decade promulgated by slime bags that promoted a war here, a war there, any little war never hurt anyone, except those maimed and killed that actually had to fight those wars, and the only thing accomplished was more BS creating more fear in the American public.

Sorry, my friend, but that philosophy may be what passes for conservatism now, but is a far cry from constitutionalism. For a hundred and fifty years we have been an imperialistic Nation State with no relief and return to a constitutional republic in the offering anytime soon.

I will simply say the 'disallowing of Iran to have nuclear weapons' will be accompanied by a gazillion more lives ruined and shattered
in the quest to fight the evil dejure of the day.  Meanwhile, America will continue to go to the Malls and fight over the latest doo dads imported for our pleasures. Most Americans simply do not give a crap and it doesn't even register on their 'to do meter'.

If, in the course of our happy little sojourn here, it behooves you to try to determine what I think and to speak for me, by all means do so.
  

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Re: Should Iran Be Allowed To Have A Nuclear Weapon?
Reply #12 - 03/04/15 at 09:00:43
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Shooterman wrote on 03/04/15 at 08:51:43:
What I have maintained is one sovereign nation, unless attacked by another sovereign nation, has absolutely no business interfering in the affairs of that nation.


We are not talking about Mortars.  It is Nukes that the discussion is about.  The World is not a Democracy.  The most powerful rule.  Would you want to be Iran's neighbor with Nukes?  No, I didn't think so.
  
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Re: Should Iran Be Allowed To Have A Nuclear Weapon?
Reply #13 - 03/04/15 at 09:13:11
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bigmck wrote on 03/04/15 at 09:00:43:
We are not talking about Mortars.  It is Nukes that the discussion is about.  The World is not a Democracy.  The most powerful rule.  Would you want to be Iran's neighbor with Nukes?  No, I didn't think so.


Nice strawman!
  

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Re: Should Iran Be Allowed To Have A Nuclear Weapon?
Reply #14 - 03/04/15 at 09:13:14
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Why isn't OBlamer and the libtarts pushing green energy in Iran, heck if it's good enough for us why not them?
  

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Re: Should Iran Be Allowed To Have A Nuclear Weapon?
Reply #15 - 03/04/15 at 09:13:20
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I voted no of course. But the greatest threat to America right now is not a nuclear Iran, not North Korea or ISIS or China or Russia, but the leadership in power now, and I'm talkin' both sides of the isle, the bunch of leftist NAZI's. I was listening to talk radio down here and they were discussing Hussien's constant use of Executive Orders. He rules with impunity. What would stop him from say copying Argentina and confiscate all savings and retirement accounts by Executive Action. Who's to stop him? The GOP? Puhleaz! The Supreme's? Not with Roberts in charge.
  

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Re: Should Iran Be Allowed To Have A Nuclear Weapon?
Reply #16 - 03/04/15 at 11:23:40
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The only things that should be nooqoolur in Iran should be the mushroom shape clouds over the craters of their s'posed nooqoolur research facilities.

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Re: Should Iran Be Allowed To Have A Nuclear Weapon?
Reply #17 - 03/04/15 at 11:33:34
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mortarman wrote on 03/04/15 at 11:23:40:
The only things that should be nooqoolur in Iran should be the mushroom shape clouds over the craters of their s'posed nooqoolur research facilities.

Smiley


For certain you will then see them hovering over NYC, DC, Frisco, Houston, et al. When the birds fly, Armageddon is here.
  

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Re: Should Iran Be Allowed To Have A Nuclear Weapon?
Reply #18 - 03/04/15 at 16:01:27
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I think a better question would be:

How far are you willing to go to stop Iran from getting Nukes. I don't think anyone on this board wants Iran to get nukes.

So how far would you go?

1) Sanctions

2) Continued covert actions - Assassinating scientists. Hacking

3) Giving Israel the same amount of support they have given us against Afghanistan, Iraq, and ISIS (Basically a pat on the back and "Go get 'em) while Israel bombs Iran

4) Take part with Israel in bombing Iran.

5) Small amounts of boots on the ground in Iran. Special forces to disable nuclear facilities. Very dangerous and not guaranteed to work.

6) Full scale invasion. Regime change. Long occupation to dismantle nuclear facilities and ensure they don't start up again. 



There has been plenty of big talk about how Iran can't be allowed to get nukes yet no one mentions what we are going to do to stop them. As of right now, #3 is as far as I would go. I'm not willing to go to war with Iran yet. Maybe this will change in the future but I'm not willing to bankrupt and destroy the USA to save Israel.
  
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