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Reply #10 - 02/16/16 at 12:07:23
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I know this is all bad news but we need to keep one thing in mind, I know we are all for the constitution---- but constitutionally speaking…

That's just it.
The Constitution does say the President nominates a Supreme.
Here's the irony, which we all know, but it still hurts.  King O only uses constitutional principles when it suits his progressive cause.
 
& our liberal senate republicans?
Ginsberg:  only 3 R's voted against her.
Kagan:      7 R's voted for her.
SotoMayor:  9 R's voted for her.

Either way it goes, the fix is in.  We now only have (2) conservative Supremes.
  
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Reply #11 - 02/16/16 at 12:15:19
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Mr.M wrote on 02/16/16 at 07:48:24:
I know this is all bad news but we need to keep one thing in mind, I know we are all for the constitution---- but constitutionally speaking…… the president does have the obligation to appoint a SC justice when this happens….. that is a fact…….. I know that hurts, and it hurts me too…… but being hypocritical about this is not right, and it is constitutionally not right…….. I know…he is going to pick the most liberal SC appointee there is……..and this country has got itself into a mess………. but all along, this is something I have been observing ever since I was old enough to begin voting………. we have let our politicians go by for way to long, not holding them accountable for anything…..and over the years, it only continues to get worst….we have way too many RINOS in power who continually COMPROMISING THEIR PRINCIPLES…… this is why things are the way they are….now we got a socialist in the WH, and RINOS who supported his last 2 SC justice picks, why----because they compromised their principles…………..   the end result is what we are now seeing…the other side has absolutely no interest in “getting along”, like these RINOS said ……. we caved….we gave…..and they gained…… now God’s judgement is here…and our constitution is in peril because of power hungry compromising politicians that have…well basically sold us out……………  we reap what we sow………  this is our fault ladies and gentleman…….if you know the constitution like I do….we had the power to rid ourselves of these corrupt politicians….but we laid back and did nothing and allowed them to do as they please………. our complacency has done us in…… our prosperties have become the new gods of America, replacing the true living God who was the giver of the prosperities and liberties we enjoy………. isn’t it a tragedy that we have done this….I believe this is the biggest tragedy in American history….and the ramifications of it has not even set in yet, but when it does, then and only then will we see the errors in our ways………….how sad.


I understand what you are saying, but I think it is hopeful that the Senate will delay based on past appointment and certainly there is a time frame to consider which also has been ruled on in the past. With that being stated; nowhere in the Constitution does it state how many justices shall be appointed.  There haven’t always been nine justices on the court.

The U.S. Constitution established the Supreme Court but left it to Congress to decide how many justices should make up the court. The Judiciary Act of 1789 set the number at six: a chief justice and five associate justices. In 1807, Congress increased the number of justices to seven; in 1837, the number was bumped up to nine; and in 1863, it rose to 10. In 1866, Congress passed the Judicial Circuits Act, which shrank the number of justices back down to seven and prevented President Andrew Johnson from appointing anyone new to the court. Three years later, in 1869, Congress raised the number of justices to nine, where it has stood ever since. In 1937, in an effort to create a court more friendly to his New Deal programs, President Franklin Roosevelt attempted to convince Congress to pass legislation that would allow a new justice to be added to the court—for a total of up to 15 members—for every justice over 70 who opted not to retire. Congress didn’t go for FDR’s plan.

Secondly, and perhaps most importantly; if Republicans leave the seat vacant for any length of  time, that sets up the possibility of a series of deadlocked four-to-four votes in which the ruling of the lower federal court would stand as the law.

http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/7-things-you-might-not-know-about-the-...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/13/what-happens-when-a-su...
  
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Reply #12 - 02/16/16 at 12:19:48
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countzero wrote on 02/16/16 at 11:30:29:
If the republicans cave once again and nominate one of obama's nominees, then the republicans are dust for sure....

Actually, if the Senate confirms Obozo's appointee, Trump will win the White House.  All this country needs is to see a 6-3 ratio in the SCOTUS, and they'll look to an outsider to elect, to stick the proverbial finger, in the RNC's collective "eye".   Trump is THAT candidate.
  
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Reply #13 - 02/16/16 at 12:20:42
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Libertybele, you really think it sets up a deadlock?  With Kennedy?

& Roberts who is willing & ready to rewrite any of O's legislation to make it work.

We all know he rewrote Obamacare the 1st time (penalty is a tax), & then re-interpreted written law that states who did not set up federal exchanges were still eligible for taxpayer subsidies.
  
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Reply #14 - 02/16/16 at 12:51:50
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Fishman wrote on 02/16/16 at 09:39:00:
No, the president does not "appoint" a SCJ, he only nominates someone. As far as being hypocritical goes, please listen to this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnpjs45D7OY




The President can appoint a nominee under the Constitution, and under that same Constitution, the Senate does NOT have to confirm him/her.

Lily003    Shocked
  
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Reply #15 - 02/16/16 at 13:39:22
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countzero wrote on 02/16/16 at 11:30:29:
If the republicans cave once again and nominate one of obama's nominees, then the republicans are dust for sure....

Exactly! However, if the Republicans stand firm and block any Obama nominee to the Supreme Court, they will benefit greatly in the upcoming elections - both presidential and congressional.
  

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Reply #16 - 02/16/16 at 13:42:43
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tiny1 wrote on 02/16/16 at 12:19:48:
Actually, if the Senate confirms Obozo's appointee, Trump will win the White House.  All this country needs is to see a 6-3 ratio in the SCOTUS, and they'll look to an outsider to elect, to stick the proverbial finger, in the RNC's collective "eye".   Trump is THAT candidate.


Why would that ensure a Trump win??  We have another outsider running he is not only a Constitutional Conservative but a Constitutional scholar.
  
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Reply #17 - 02/16/16 at 13:46:22
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Belle wrote on 02/16/16 at 12:20:42:
Libertybele, you really think it sets up a deadlock?  With Kennedy?

& Roberts who is willing & ready to rewrite any of O's legislation to make it work.

We all know he rewrote Obamacare the 1st time (penalty is a tax), & then re-interpreted written law that states who did not set up federal exchanges were still eligible for taxpayer subsidies.


I am not saying that it would happen, I am stating that the possibility is there.  I am hoping that for once this Congress does the right thing and delays in accordance to previous precedents. 

No, I am not holding my breath. If the GOP caves we are royally screwed and it's not going to make a difference which GOP candidate gets in.
  
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Re: Could Not Confirming An Obama Supreme Court Appointee Effect The 2016 Election?
Reply #18 - 02/16/16 at 14:00:01
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Naturalized-Texan wrote on 02/16/16 at 10:07:19:
It's possible, if not probable, that not confirming Obama's nominee to the Supreme Court could help the Republicans in the November elections. So, yes, it could affect the election.


This is true but not confirming him will also excite the Dems to vote and to also change the congress to Dem controlled.

  

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Reply #19 - 02/17/16 at 07:00:52
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Naturalized-Texan wrote on 02/16/16 at 10:07:19:
It's possible, if not probable, that not confirming Obama's nominee to the Supreme Court could help the Republicans in the November elections. So, yes, it could affect the election.



How so?  There was 66 million Obama voters in 2012. Second most in election history.
  
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