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Amend the constitution to divide the executive branch of government
03/08/16 at 08:50:52
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It seams to me that the executive branch is too powerful and represents a single point of failure for the nation. All it takes is one nutjob to become commander and chief and the country is put at risk. Furthermore, I think the job is too big for any one brain to deal with.

I think we should have 3 Presidents with specialized roles.

1. President of Defense.   
    a. In peace time is merely the extension of the secretary of defense   
    b. In war time has power over the other two Presidents.
   
2. President of the Interior
    a. Sets domestic policy
    b. during natural or cataclysmic disasters has power  over the other two Presidents

3. President of foreign/judicial affairs
     a. sets trade and foreign policy and handles appointing people to the various branches of government such as the supreme court.

No President has the no right to Pardon anyone. This is a leftover from the divine right of Kings.



   

    
  
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Re: Amend the constitution to divide the executive branch of government
Reply #1 - 10/01/16 at 12:02:32
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This is an interesting concept that was evaluated by the Founders and found to be impractical. A single executive was chosen to ensure that the executive duties would be carried out. More than one executive would essentially constitute a committee which they saw from history didn't work.
The elevation of executive power has been caused by the Congress allowing the executive to wield power that he is not given by the Constitution. When TR Roosevelt came in to office he took an oath to defend the Constitution and then said things like: "To hell with the Constitution when the people need coal." or "I refuse to believe that just because the Constitution does not grant me power to do something, that I can't do it."
This was the beginning of the Progressive movement.
And the Congress at the time went along with it.

Congress is our real problem. They have let the Executive get away with stealing power. The Constitution doesn't need amending, it just needs enforcement.
  
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Re: Amend the constitution to divide the executive branch of government
Reply #2 - 10/06/16 at 23:29:14
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Conservative Mike wrote on 10/01/16 at 12:02:32:
Congress is our real problem. They have let the Executive get away with stealing power. The Constitution doesn't need amending, it just needs enforcement.


I agree completely. Same for SCOTUS.  I can't comment on the three presidential departments, though.
As chartered, the court's place was to decide in disputes between states, disputes that could not be settled by the supreme courts of the states themselves. It was never meant to write the law of the land.
The 14th, which has been the most challenged amendment of all, should never have happened.
"Equal Protection" was interpreted to mean one law applies to all. That was a progressive scheme, approved by SCOTUS for obvious reasons.
  
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Re: Amend the constitution to divide the executive branch of government
Reply #3 - 10/27/16 at 16:11:41
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I would love to see a constitutional amendment that BARRED any member of the bar corporation from at a minimum two (and more preferably all three) of our branches of government.  I would specifically bar them from ever being on the supreme court for a start.

The courts are constantly extending their own authority and diminishing our rights and 7 of the 8 current members of this court are of the opinion that if the legal meaning of a word used in the constitution changes (because they specifically changed it) then the new word meaning is controlling.

I.E. when they redefine a word they change the original intent of the constitution.

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The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced as the very definition of tyranny.
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Re: Amend the constitution to divide the executive branch of government
Reply #4 - 10/28/16 at 00:35:48
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RedDirt wrote on 10/06/16 at 23:29:14:
I agree completely. Same for SCOTUS.  I can't comment on the three presidential departments, though.
As chartered, the court's place was to decide in disputes between states, disputes that could not be settled by the supreme courts of the states themselves. It was never meant to write the law of the land.
The 14th, which has been the most challenged amendment of all, should never have happened.
"Equal Protection" was interpreted to mean one law applies to all. That was a progressive scheme, approved by SCOTUS for obvious reasons.


I agree with that statement. The supreme court is supposed to give an opinion based solely on the constitution. If the law needs to be changed, it is congress that is supposed to create the law. A supreme court opinion does not automatically create law, that is a usurpation of their constitutional authority...
  

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