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Re: PUTIN: If Clinton wins.....WAR
Reply #10 - 10/16/16 at 11:42:55
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I totally understand those who grew up in the 50's and their feelings on Russia (Soviet Union) but I would like to point out a few facts:

1.  Russia never wanted to go to war directly with the U.S.  When Kruschev (spelling?) was banging on a podium saying, "we will bury you", it was just talk.  All those decades, Russia never really had the capabilities to fight an all out war.  Their bomber and tank fleets were drastically inflated.

2.  Russia never intended to invade Europe, at least after Stalin died.

3.  Russia's fighting tactics are woefully inept against ours and their defense department were shocked at how easy it was for us to destroy Saddam's Soviet equipped and trained 4th largest army in the world in the 1st Gulf War.

4.  Yes Putin is KGB.  But is also anti communist and aligned himself with Gorbachev in pulling down the curtain.

5.  When the Soviet Union collapsed, the new Russia held out their hand to the west and wanted to join the western democracies in partnerships mostly to get their basket case of an economy up and running (their economy is still a basket case).  We slapped that hand (under HW Bush) and added even more Eastern European nations to NATO.  Remember when I said before Russia had no intention of invading Europe?  A younger Putin was angered at this because it is a hostile act that was designed to continue our policy of "containment" that we used throughout the cold war.

Russia in no more than a self imposed "boogeyman" that is still pushed by neo con and neo liberal anti communists.  Think William Kristol here.  This boogeyman myth is to continue our huge defense contracts on things we don't really need.  We need another fleet and we need more cyber and anti satellite warfare technologies.  The days of the massive infantry and armor divisions are over.
  
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Reply #11 - 10/16/16 at 14:28:12
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Putin is a man and something the libs ignore.
If Klington started a war, Putin would laugh his butt off.
These people are just to busy raking in money to do anything else.
  
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Reply #12 - 10/16/16 at 14:33:54
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I would not be too quick to dismiss the Russians so casually.
  

The trouble with good ideas is that they quickly deteriorate into hard work....
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Reply #13 - 10/16/16 at 14:34:03
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The EMF is a frightening weapon, especially to us, who are so dependent on chips.  Let's not forget, we developed
the EMF and we can reduce the enemy to stone age, same as he will have done to us, provided he gets lucky and it works for him.
Aside from the radiation, worse case for us is that we go
man to man, provided Hillary does not get join there and succeed in disarming us.
  
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Reply #14 - 10/16/16 at 14:47:47
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Hillary will continue and even escalate Barry's commitment and plan to weaken America.
  

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Reply #15 - 10/16/16 at 15:01:59
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If Putin was smart, he would want Hillary to win, that way he could just sit back and watch America kill itself............which is what I believe we are going to do anyway.......why wast Russian lives and rubels.......Heck...most the the job has already been done with 8 years of Allahbama........
  
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Reply #16 - 10/16/16 at 15:12:55
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No, War between us is suicidal.

What country have we gone to war with that has Nuclear weapons?


Yes
If congress funds them than they're declared.


Agreed it would be suicidal.  What was that term - mutually assured destruction?

That has kept both countries in line for a long time.  Just saber rattling.

Lily003   Undecided
  
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Reply #17 - 10/16/16 at 15:35:11
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It would be just like armies from the past invading China.
The Chinese just sat back and waited for the attackers to blend into society.
  
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Re: PUTIN: If Clinton wins.....WAR
Reply #18 - 10/16/16 at 18:17:06
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CLinton is trying to get to Power by copying Obuma Policital base.  We are in three wars right now-Iraqi, Afghanastan, Somalia.....Obuma response to Putin...is big moral talk and no action........Clinton supports Obuma
  
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