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How to start a civil war!!!
03/14/17 at 21:25:35
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First you have to establish dividing lines.  In US Civil War, it was the north vs the south.  The one that someone is attempting to start now, will be a philosophical dividing.  Primarily Conservative vs Liberal.  The question is whether it is being instigated by a the liberals or an outside source.  The DNC has had their personal emails hacked, and claim that it cost them the elections.  Now, Trump says that his Campaign Headquarters phones had been hacked.  Attack one side and make them thing to was done by the other.  Then attack the other side.  Both claim that the other side is the instigator, and escalates it.  All we can hope for, is that sounder minds intervene, and exposes what is going on.  It all starts with discovery.  So, let's have some!!

Abid and Jamal Awan Imran were two IT specialist working for the Democrats in Congress.  They also had access to the DNC servers.  Both are from Pakistan.  Their step-mother was from Iraq.  She had access to accounts in Iraq.  Now, these brothers were hired by the DNC to handle IT duties for the Democrats in Congress.  As a matter of fact, it seems that they were hired by Wassermann-Shultz personally. 

Recently, investigations of these brothers have been initiated by the DC police for hacking the DNC, unauthorized IT purchases, and theft of IT equipment.  More strangely, another investigation has been started into their holding their step-mother hostage, and draining more then $100,000 from her Iraqi account.  These brothers were keeping their step-mother from their dying father's death bed.  Supposedly they had surveillance cameras set up through the woman's house, and bugged her phones.  (sound familiar).  Their DNC supporters are still standing behind them claiming that the investigations are targeting them because they are Muslim.   Here is the kicker, it is reported that the DNC has paid them $4 Million. 

So, could they actually be DNC operatives that were paid to release the DNC emails, and to hack Trump Tower?  That would explain so much. 

The link is to one part of the story.  To read the whole thing, use the links at the bottom of the story. 

http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/08/house-staffers-in-security-probe-allegedly-kep...
  

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Re: How to start a civil war!!!
Reply #1 - 03/15/17 at 09:41:52
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Here is the kicker, it is reported that the DNC has paid them $4 Million

It will be really sad if by chance another terrorist attack happens and this money the DNC gave these muslim brothers is traced back to help facilitate the attack.
  
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First, there will be another attack and it will be soon.  If this illicit money can be traced back to these hackers helping to finance the attack, AND the media actually reported the truth?  In my book this would be great!  It would help turn some of these beyond stupid people in this country.
  

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Reply #3 - 03/15/17 at 10:10:54
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I don't think that "a civil war" is a correct term.  Our elected federal Government is under assault by unelected, unaccountable criminals. We control both hoses of Congress and the Presidency and soon will have a balanced Supreme Court (and within the next four year, may have a Conservative Majority Supreme Court).  WE NOW REPRESENT "THE UNION"!

Restoration of the Rule of Law means that those who are vested with power by our Constitution and as the result of free and fair elections, do their jobs!  None of us ought to consider a civil war as any answer for anyone other than those who would like to overthrow the United State Government, which we now control!

Again, the problem is criminal networks of those who are subverting the rule of law and the legitimate authority of our elected government!

If their is any civil war, it is the Left Wing Radicals who are the "rebels" against "the Union".  Think about that!  Wink

(It ain't yer old great, great grandpappy's concept of a "war against yankee aggression"  Smiley )
  
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No wally, you're wrong.  We control the Presidency, and nothing else.  If the judiciary isn't fixed real soon, there will be gun violence erupting.  Repairing the judiciary doesn't mean just the Supreme Court.  It means the lowest of the Federal courts that congress could fix in a week, but won't.  See what I mean about only having control of one branch?

Don't let my "Debbie Downerism" dampen your enthusiasm though.  We still need that!  Wink
  

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Reply #5 - 03/15/17 at 10:20:19
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UCAV wrote on 03/15/17 at 09:50:25:
First, there will be another attack and it will be soon.  If this illicit money can be traced back to these hackers helping to finance the attack, AND the media actually reported the truth?  In my book this would be great!  It would help turn some of these beyond stupid people in this country.


That will never happen.
  
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Reply #6 - 03/15/17 at 10:34:29
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UCAV wrote on 03/15/17 at 10:16:21:
No wally, you're wrong.  We control the Presidency, and nothing else.  If the judiciary isn't fixed real soon, there will be gun violence erupting.  Repairing the judiciary doesn't mean just the Supreme Court.  It means the lowest of the Federal courts that congress could fix in a week, but won't.  See what I mean about only having control of one branch?

Don't let my "Debbie Downerism" dampen your enthusiasm though.  We still need that!  Wink

talk about "civil war"and "gun violence" only weakens our political positions and makes the Left sound somehow 'reasonable'.  The only purpose for a "civil war" would be for the violent overthrow of the United States of America.  This plays right into the hands of the Marxists and anarchists!

Besides, the issues are not as they were in the 1860's, when America was divided between North and South.  The issues now are more between ideological differences among segments of the population throughout all of our communities and their respective states.

I believe in the framework of our Constitution and that if we return to it, those who do not become "outlaws" and the Constitution gives the legal authority to our government to deal with such individuals.

Had Hillary been elected, things wold have been different, but the lawful authority belongs to our President for the enforcement of our nation's laws and the security of our people!
  
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Reply #7 - 03/15/17 at 10:41:23
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UCAV wrote on 03/15/17 at 10:16:21:
No wally, you're wrong.  We control the Presidency, and nothing else.  If the judiciary isn't fixed real soon, there will be gun violence erupting.  Repairing the judiciary doesn't mean just the Supreme Court.  It means the lowest of the Federal courts that congress could fix in a week, but won't.  See what I mean about only having control of one branch?

Don't let my "Debbie Downerism" dampen your enthusiasm though.  We still need that!  Wink


There are over a 100 vacant Federal Judges that Trump can appoint.  That needs to be done as soon as possible.  After Gorsuch, all we need is one more Supreme Court Judge to get the SC majority back.  Things are looking up.  We just need to hang in there.
  
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Reply #8 - 03/15/17 at 13:55:05
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The first thing that needs to be done is to have the rest of the cabinet installed.  The second thing to be done is round up all democrats; put them into Montana and Minnesota, then nuke both states!

--but I digress!   Grin

We could start by nuking the west coast---
-----wait!!
  

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Reply #9 - 03/15/17 at 15:36:32
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wally wrote on 03/15/17 at 10:34:29:
talk about "civil war"and "gun violence" only weakens our political positions and makes the Left sound somehow 'reasonable'.  The only purpose for a "civil war" would be for the violent overthrow of the United States of America.  This plays right into the hands of the Marxists and anarchists!

Besides, the issues are not as they were in the 1860's, when America was divided between North and South.  The issues now are more between ideological differences among segments of the population throughout all of our communities and their respective states.

I believe in the framework of our Constitution and that if we return to it, those who do not become "outlaws" and the Constitution gives the legal authority to our government to deal with such individuals.

Had Hillary been elected, things wold have been different, but the lawful authority belongs to our President for the enforcement of our nation's laws and the security of our people!


How does talk about civil war and gun violence weaken our political, or ideological, stance against a Marxist and/or Anarchist insurrection against our US Constitution?  The left wants the US to cede sovereignty to the UN.  It is a big step towards globalization.  Which is nothing more then a one world Communist Government.  Obama put us on a course headed in that direction, but the citizens rejected that course when they elected Trump.  The left now has to find a way to subvert the will of the people.  They are using organized insurrection and fake news.  The sheeple are exposed to it every night, and at every Townhall meeting.  If that does not work (so far it isn't), then the next logical step is armed insurrection.  Then you will be knee deep in civil war and gun violence.  It is the US version of Arab Spring.

What you have to remember is that the Rebels are not always the good guys, and that the dividing line in a civil war can be philosophically.  It is not always territorial dividing lines.
  

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