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Re: Get the Government Out of Healthcare
Reply #10 - 03/15/17 at 08:16:17
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bigmck wrote on 03/15/17 at 08:07:33:
We are talking about the current Health Bill in Congress.  Medicare and Medicaid are two different things.  They need to exist.  People that can provide for themselves need to be left alone.  They next thing the government will be requiring we only use toilet paper made by Black & Decker.

For better or for worse, since the Great Depression, America has created "a safety net" to care for and assist our "most vulnerable populations" (poor, disabled and elderly).  The raging debate has been around the margins; such is who is defined as "poor" and how much assistance ought to be provided, at the public expense (taxpayers).

While both Medicare and Social Security are supported by taxes on each and every paycheck that a wage earner makes, this is not true with other assistance programs which have been all lumped together and called "entitlements".

The Left has rather successfully shaped the narrative surrounding Healthcare to establish it as " a right" as if it is one of our protected civil rights, enumerated in the Constitution.
  
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Re: Get the Government Out of Healthcare
Reply #11 - 03/15/17 at 08:24:04
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wally wrote on 03/15/17 at 08:16:17:
While both Medicare and Social Security are supported by taxes on each and every paycheck that a wage earner makes, this is not true with other assistance programs which have been all lumped together and called "entitlements".


Actually everything comes from paychecks.  The government has no money.
  
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Reply #12 - 03/15/17 at 08:46:24
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bigmck wrote on 03/15/17 at 07:58:30:
If the government wants everyone covered, they already have Medicaid for those that can't pay.  Just get out of the business of the ones that can pay. 


I agree. I have expressed the same thing when o wanted to have everyone covered. Everyone IS covered through private insurance, company insurance AND medicaid. All our working lives we have paid into medicare and social security. If the government hadn't put it all into the general fund, we wouldn't have a problem, imo.
  

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Reply #13 - 03/15/17 at 09:29:42
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Government is like lung cancer; it just spreads and never a cure.  I await the revolution.
  
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Reply #14 - 03/15/17 at 10:27:33
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So that you all understand where I'm coming from, we both pay our monthly Medicare premiums, but the bulk of our healthcare coverage comes from healthcare plans we purchase through my former employer (IBM) from which I retired in 1991.

Through IBM we have the choice from many plans provided by several healthcare providers (e.g., Humana) for medical, vision, and dental and we are reimbursed for our monthly premiums and co-pays up to a specified amount.

Bottom line: We have nothing to do with Obamacare and it's highly unlikely we will have anything to do with any plan coming out of Washington, DC.
  

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Re: Get the Government Out of Healthcare
Reply #15 - 03/15/17 at 14:46:32
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Mes amis, the government could pass free cradle to the grave coverage and SOMEBODY would complain...
  
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Reply #16 - 03/15/17 at 15:01:54
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The Stranger wrote on 03/15/17 at 08:04:03:
If they get totally out how would medicare provide for our elderly?


Medicare is a totally separate issue and program.

I don't believe any of the current health care bill includes Medicare.

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Re: Get the Government Out of Healthcare
Reply #17 - 03/15/17 at 16:00:57
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Lily003 wrote on 03/15/17 at 15:01:54:
Medicare is a totally separate issue and program.

I don't believe any of the current health care bill includes Medicare.

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Reply #18 - 03/15/17 at 16:01:48
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Lily003 wrote on 03/15/17 at 00:22:37:
This train has left the station.

The horse is out of the barn.

We can lament this all we want, but it's a done deal.  The decision has already been made FOR us.  Once Obamacare was passed, the government will forever be in your health care.

Someone or ones decided health care is a "right."  And everyone will have it, even if someone else pays for it.

Medicare and Medicaid have been around a long time also.  Those are also government health care.

Lily003   Huh


We should do away with medicare!  Why do so many seniors that have the means get free insurance??  I agree with the OP - get the government out of healthcare! 

Also, they need to stop making so many demands and regulations in the drug industry, which raises the prices of medicines!  Angry It should be a free market - good medicines will get a good price, bad medicines will not be purchased.  Simple! 
  
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Re: Get the Government Out of Healthcare
Reply #19 - 03/15/17 at 16:06:55
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GGlass4395 wrote on 03/15/17 at 16:01:48:
We should do away with medicare!  Why do so many seniors that have the means get free insurance??  I agree with the OP - get the government out of healthcare! 

Also, they need to stop making so many demands and regulations in the drug industry, which raises the prices of medicines!  Angry It should be a free market - good medicines will get a good price, bad medicines will not be purchased.  Simple! 


Are you aware that money is taken out of everyone's paycheck for Medicare?  It is also paid for each month you are enrolled.  It isn't a freebie.  == I also am willing to bet you are below 35 years old.  Things will change on that outlook.
  
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