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Reply #10 - 04/21/17 at 13:38:17
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UCAV wrote on 04/21/17 at 12:08:49:
1.  People don't believe their rep is the problem.  It's your rep that is the problem.

2.  Gerrymandering helps too.  I read a while back that some new boys in congress were trying to write a bill outlawing Gerrymandering nationwide.  Good luck with that.


Good point.

My district has nothing in common with the part of Chicago that Bobby Rush also represents.  Gerrymandering at its finest.

Lily003   Huh
  
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Reply #11 - 04/21/17 at 13:56:15
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Some time back (a year ago?) I posted on my blog my article stating if the coming election (2016) didn't change the ideology in DC, our country was doomed to the morass of socialism. 

I also predicted if we don't elect a strong leader (and I believe we have one) and get RID of the RINOs, we wouldn't be able to stop the slide.

I also predicted if the slide continued, we'd see a new revolution.
Now, I'm afraid we WON'T see that!  Too many Americans are used to having government tell them what to do; what's "safe" for them; and how to obtain government pay for doing nothing.

Trump isn't being given the chance to change anything.

Witness Venezuela.  Is this where we will be in a year, or two?  There have been as many as 400,000 starving people in the streets in that country, which is just another picture of the failures of socialism.
  

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."Winston Churchill
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Reply #12 - 04/21/17 at 14:23:08
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Trumps republican trouble makers are on the take and have already started to  enjoy the new found wealth.

Obama is still their leader.
  
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Reply #13 - 04/21/17 at 19:01:30
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Lily003 wrote on 04/21/17 at 11:39:13:
So why do the people in their districts keep electing them?  Why is Paul Ryan, John McCain, and any other Republican not with the program STILL THERE? 


I am starting to think that there is real vote fraud going on.  Weill if this gov't thing doesn't get worked out guess who won't be getting paid. But the Judiciary has like 3 weeks that it can go without funding due to good budgeting and fees.

I do think the Federal Gov't being closed hurts them much more than republicans so I do think it won't happen or won't go on for long.

On the we are divided.... I am really scared that his is just the human condition. I have been recently watching the "white queen" about the real life war of the roses. I must have missed that day in history.  But this went on during what was called the dark ages in England. Humn... I wonder why? Because 1/2 of England was fighting the other.  Lancaster vrs. York.

It only ended (begrudgingly) by a marriage.

Is that just what is happening here and basically FOREVER? One side against the other. Doesn't matter what the issues are, if one side says yes the other side says no...

I think we just have to separate. We should just call it now.
  
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Reply #14 - 04/21/17 at 19:24:05
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Remember, every time the Republicans were blamed for a shutdown they gains seats in both Federal and State governments.  Smiley  Shutdowns are okay because they are really fake shutdowns.
  
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Reply #15 - 04/21/17 at 19:34:57
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Trump's win was an upset.
We know from the Podesta emails that the Democrats
were happy when he won the nomination, and encouraged
each other almost right to the end.  They trusted the
polls and what their media reps were telling them.
The old GOP wanted Hillary, too. She does what she's told.

  
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Reply #16 - 04/21/17 at 20:34:12
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Yes and the people have spoken. I hope and pray Trump puts them all the shame. The Rinos better get it together. Go Tea Party.bigmck wrote on 04/21/17 at 11:08:39:
Four months ago I would have agreed.  Now, no.  Trump is on a path and will get things done.  The People Have Spoken.

  

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Reply #17 - 04/21/17 at 23:15:45
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Lily003 wrote on 04/21/17 at 11:39:13:
So why do the people in their districts keep electing them?  Why is Paul Ryan, John McCain, and any other Republican not with the program STILL THERE?  These are not new people.  They don't change, yet they keep being re-elected.

What do we see that they don't?  What the heck do they do all day? 

As others have opined, they have no problem with the status quo.  They don't even GET why people like us are upset.  As long as they keep their job and campaign contributions come in, they really don't care about the citizen.  Yet citizens keep electing them.  They say one thing while campaigning, yet maintain the same old after election day.

If you have a Republican Congressman, call and write.  I don't have any Republicans to contact.  I have tried with the Democrats, but the likes of Dick Durbin and Bobby Rush could care less.

Stay on them, please.

Lily003    Shocked


Because 85% of voters are political illiterates. They look at a ballot, see a name they recognize and color in the rectangle, poke the hole or whatever next to that name. It's election by celebrity. If the candidate has been in office then he/she must know what they're doing so vote them back in. It's the easy way, but stupid reasoning. 
  
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Reply #18 - 04/22/17 at 09:28:32
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ceelu wrote on 04/21/17 at 23:15:45:
Because 85% of voters are political illiterates. They look at a ballot, see a name they recognize and color in the rectangle, poke the hole or whatever next to that name. It's election by celebrity. 


Ironically there was a movie made about this where Eddie Murphy had the same name as the last congressman (who died) and he put himself on the ballot and got elected.

Witness the perpetual "Kennedy" in congress. Doesn't matter who they are, what they look like, if the people of Massachusetts see a Kennedy, they vote for it...

Sheep.
  
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Re: Government Shut Down (Rant)
Reply #19 - 04/22/17 at 10:00:54
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RedDirt wrote on 04/21/17 at 19:34:57:
Trump's win was an upset.
We know from the Podesta emails that the Democrats
were happy when he won the nomination, and encouraged
each other almost right to the end.  They trusted the
polls and what their media reps were telling them.
The old GOP wanted Hillary, too. She does what she's told.




An Upset?  I say NO. It was an Upset because the Liberals told you that.  If things were reversed and Hillary's Rallies were filling football stadiums and Trump's were filling Church Basement's, you would hear that the People have "Loudly Issued a Mandate".  ==  Sure the Dems wanted Trump, they don't know their Azzz from a Hole in the Ground.   Wink
  
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