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President Trump "Threatens" Venezuela--
08/11/17 at 21:54:48
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Well--, "sort of"!

After all, he wants to get rid of the socialist government there.

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Re: President Trump "Threatens" Venezuela--
Reply #1 - 08/12/17 at 00:52:54
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I am loving it. It has been long past due for the United States to be taking it to all her enemies via the only language they understand, unrelenting force. Foreign powers have walked all over us for the last time, it's time to start showing the world what kind of enemy the United States can be.
  
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Re: President Trump "Threatens" Venezuela--
Reply #2 - 08/12/17 at 06:18:06
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Nope I don't love it. Well if he is just "talking" fine but we are not the world's "fixer". I would prefer that he announce tomorrow that the USA is closed for repairs and we won't be back on the world stage for 2 more years.  If your country is a mess... that is on you my friends. The well has run dry.

If we don't do this soon.. we will be Venezuela.
  
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Re: President Trump "Threatens" Venezuela--
Reply #3 - 08/12/17 at 08:13:12
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Drogon wrote on 08/12/17 at 06:18:06:
Nope I don't love it. Well if he is just "talking" fine but we are not the world's "fixer". I would prefer that he announce tomorrow that the USA is closed for repairs and we won't be back on the world stage for 2 more years.  If your country is a mess... that is on you my friends. The well has run dry.

We can bury a few countries now for yrs to come or a least a few future POTUS.

If we don't do this soon.. we will be Venezuela.

I agree BUT!
These countries are all but done if someone don't step in. Not us Russia. Remember fuel is cheap now but won't stay thar way. I like for Trump to continue with the drill everywhere philosophy. Russia is realing with the cheap oil now, they take over Venezuela ad shut their wells and prices go up helping them(Russia). They don't care if Venezuela totally collapses as long as oil goes up.
  

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Reply #4 - 08/12/17 at 09:24:02
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Drogon wrote on 08/12/17 at 06:18:06:
Nope I don't love it. Well if he is just "talking" fine but we are not the world's "fixer". I would prefer that he announce tomorrow that the USA is closed for repairs and we won't be back on the world stage for 2 more years.  If your country is a mess... that is on you my friends. The well has run dry.

If we don't do this soon.. we will be Venezuela.



For 8 years under OBAMA we have a NOT FIXER and look where that got us. In the mess we are today. USA needs to be the POWER of the World. If Not RUSSIA assumes that role. Your Choice!
  
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Re: President Trump "Threatens" Venezuela--
Reply #5 - 08/12/17 at 09:34:15
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For 8 years under OBAMA we have a NOT FIXER and look where that got us. In the mess we are today. USA needs to be the POWER of the World. If Not RUSSIA assumes that role. Your Choice!


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Re: President Trump "Threatens" Venezuela--
Reply #6 - 08/12/17 at 14:39:27
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Drogon wrote on 08/12/17 at 06:18:06:
Nope I don't love it. Well if he is just "talking" fine but we are not the world's "fixer". I would prefer that he announce tomorrow that the USA is closed for repairs and we won't be back on the world stage for 2 more years.  If your country is a mess... that is on you my friends. The well has run dry.

If we don't do this soon.. we will be Venezuela.

We are the "fixer" if it threatens us, and socialism in Venezuela does threaten us, because they invariably farm it out to nations around them. 
Look at Cuba.  If  Kennedy had backed the rebel invasion there, we'd have a friend in Cuba and it would have eliminated the "bravado" from him against Khrushchev.

We should be enforcing the Monroe Doctrine--still!
  

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Re: President Trump "Threatens" Venezuela--
Reply #7 - 08/12/17 at 15:15:57
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Drogon wrote on 08/12/17 at 06:18:06:
Nope I don't love it. Well if he is just "talking" fine but we are not the world's "fixer". I would prefer that he announce tomorrow that the USA is closed for repairs and we won't be back on the world stage for 2 more years.  If your country is a mess... that is on you my friends. The well has run dry.

If we don't do this soon.. we will be Venezuela.


Why has it been 'need help' call 911 USA' ?  We are always there to help with disasters , floods, earthquakes, famine, disease epidemics, whatever. Cash, food, supplies,  medical help on the way !  But we can no longer be policeman to the world, we are flat broke, deep in debt, our nation torn to shreds internally, a badly weakened military, and a government so corrupt a soft coup may not hold much loner. Do we really need to get into this? We sound so much like Rome toward the end of empire it's frightening.
  

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Re: President Trump "Threatens" Venezuela--
Reply #8 - 08/12/17 at 15:55:50
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Obilivious Maxinus wrote on 08/12/17 at 15:15:57:
Do we really need to get into this? We sound so much like Rome toward the end of empire it's frightening.


I saw an article about how Goldman Sachs sunk a whole bunch of money into Venezuela hoping it would turn around. I wonder if Trump threw them a bone by making this empty threat to get the people there to do something. But frankly they will probably just sit back now and wait for us.
  
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Re: President Trump "Threatens" Venezuela--
Reply #9 - 08/12/17 at 18:30:20
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Obilivious Maxinus wrote on 08/12/17 at 15:15:57:
Why has it been 'need help' call 911 USA' ?  We are always there to help with disasters , floods, earthquakes, famine, disease epidemics, whatever. Cash, food, supplies,  medical help on the way !  But we can no longer be policeman to the world, we are flat broke, deep in debt, our nation torn to shreds internally, a badly weakened military, and a government so corrupt a soft coup may not hold much loner. Do we really need to get into this? We sound so much like Rome toward the end of empire it's frightening.


I agree with you.

And, notice how despite all the help we give, most of those we've helped don't even thank us?

I know this is more complex than I may understand.  The Russia/oil thing is troubling.  We don't need $4.00 + gasoline again.  That really hurt our economy.  What a mess.  If SOME people in this country would only realize how good they have it compared to some of the rest of this world.

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