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Re: President Trump: ‘We’ll Be Talking About Gun Laws’
Reply #30 - 10/04/17 at 08:12:26
 
[quote author=5F53524F594E4A5D48554A595352593C0 link=1507045784/1#1 date=1507052732]


You can't stop a person hellbent on doing this. He could have just as easily got a hold of a truck, fortified it and drove right over these people.

"Axios reports that Breitbart News’ executive chairman Steve Bannon observed that Trump’s voting base would react worse to gun control than to an amnesty bill. Bannon said that Trump’s support for gun control would “be the end of everything.”

I would tend to agree.[/quote


AGREE, Trump is walking on thin ice right now with most of his base of supporters. The support of RINO Luther Strange over Judge Moore really POed a lot of his base. Throw in their DACA, JAVANKA, No WALL and keeping spineless AG Sessions from doing anything in draining the SWAMP other than protect the SWAMP is not going well for TRUMP. TAKING the GUNS well we all know what will happen ??? Roll Eyes
  
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Re: President Trump: ‘We’ll Be Talking About Gun Laws’
Reply #31 - 10/04/17 at 09:17:20
 
WAlt wrote on 10/04/17 at 07:40:18:
Don't twist my words, boy! You better direct quote me or shut your friggin pie hole. I never said the words (but there is no need for...) you just attributed to me. Are you a conservative or a liberal? Get your facts straight.

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...but I feel owning, in essence, a machine gun is beyond what one reasonably needs in a gun(s) to protect themselves.

There is the direct quote. If that is not what you meant, please clarify.
  
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Re: President Trump: ‘We’ll Be Talking About Gun Laws’
Reply #32 - 10/04/17 at 12:01:03
 
ZeWazir wrote on 10/04/17 at 09:17:20:

There is the direct quote. If that is not what you meant, please clarify.


There's nothing to clarify. I just gave my opinion about machine guns, which are strictly controlled by the National Firearms Act (and rightly so, IMO). I was limiting my opinion just to machine guns (and not advocating the banning of any guns at the whim of others who feel they aren't needed), opining that I felt a machine gun isn't a gun someone reasonably needs to protect themselves. What I was mainly alluding to was bumpstocks that in essence allow an AR-15 to, in essence, fire as fully automatic.

Not that it bothers me, but I was putting it in the context of what the MSM was showing yesterday, and I believe most folks, especially non gun folks, will perceive assault rifles equipped with bumpstocks, for all intents and purposes, to be a machine gun.

As such, I expect Chuck Schummer, Pelosi, FeinStein et.al., to demand legislation to ban any further manufacture and sale of bumpstocks. Further, if the democrats do propose such legislation, and the republicans try to fight it, I predict they will be on the losing side of the argument come mid term elections, being perceived as totally unreasonable on this one element of gun control.

I don't see how anyone (other than the most knowledgeable gun enthusiasts) looking at the video I posted would conclude that the bumpstock rifle being fired was anything less than a machine gun. I feel comfortable to say that anti gun liberals sure will, and reasonable pro 2nd Amendment folks, too.

What puzzles me is why the video was taken down at YouTube.

  
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Reply #33 - 10/04/17 at 16:16:41
 
I'm not worried...
Our drug dealers have all kinds of guns.

Hear that Australia?
  
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Re: President Trump: ‘We’ll Be Talking About Gun Laws’
Reply #34 - 10/04/17 at 19:23:42
 
I see some,...cough...cough...'republikans' are interested in 'exploring' the issue of banning gun 'bump stocks'.

Reaching across the aisle, as usual. I love it. sarcasm  Smiley Smiley

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/10/04/sen-dianne-feinstein-and...
  
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Re: President Trump: ‘We’ll Be Talking About Gun Laws’
Reply #35 - 10/04/17 at 19:26:04
 
WAlt wrote on 10/04/17 at 12:01:03:
There's nothing to clarify. I just gave my opinion about machine guns, which are strictly controlled by the National Firearms Act (and rightly so, IMO). I was limiting my opinion just to machine guns (and not advocating the banning of any guns at the whim of others who feel they aren't needed), opining that I felt a machine gun isn't a gun someone reasonably needs to protect themselves. What I was mainly alluding to was bumpstocks that in essence allow an AR-15 to, in essence, fire as fully automatic.

Not that it bothers me, but I was putting it in the context of what the MSM was showing yesterday, and I believe most folks, especially non gun folks, will perceive assault rifles equipped with bumpstocks, for all intents and purposes, to be a machine gun.

As such, I expect Chuck Schummer, Pelosi, FeinStein et.al., to demand legislation to ban any further manufacture and sale of bumpstocks. Further, if the democrats do propose such legislation, and the republicans try to fight it, I predict they will be on the losing side of the argument come mid term elections, being perceived as totally unreasonable on this one element of gun control.

I don't see how anyone (other than the most knowledgeable gun enthusiasts) looking at the video I posted would conclude that the bumpstock rifle being fired was anything less than a machine gun. I feel comfortable to say that anti gun liberals sure will, and reasonable pro 2nd Amendment folks, too.

What puzzles me is why the video was taken down at YouTube.


So, what was with the: Quote:
Don't twist my words, boy! You better direct quote me or shut your friggin pie hole.

Where did I "twist" your words? You opine that full-auto is "beyond what one needs for protection."  How is that any different from all the other times I hear people claiming to be 2nd Amendment supporters make the same type of claim that there is no "need" for whatever firearm they don't think we need? You explain you do not advocate banning what you believe is not needed - but you did not do so the first time, did you?  Hence my response.

Bottom line, you climbed all over my post like stink on a skunk. Calling me "boy"?  And telling me to get my facts straight when your direct quote USED THE WORD "need" to limit what YOU think of as "reasonable" exercise of the 2nd amendment. And, as far as I am concerned, that means you do NOT understand the actual intent of the 2nd Amendment.
  
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Re: President Trump: ‘We’ll Be Talking About Gun Laws’
Reply #36 - 10/04/17 at 20:12:53
 
ZeWazir wrote on 10/04/17 at 19:26:04:
So, what was with the:
Where did I "twist" your words? You opine that full-auto is "beyond what one needs for protection."  How is that any different from all the other times I hear people claiming to be 2nd Amendment supporters make the same type of claim that there is no "need" for whatever firearm they don't think we need? You explain you do not advocate banning what you believe is not needed - but you did not do so the first time, did you?  Hence my response.

Bottom line, you climbed all over my post like stink on a skunk. Calling me "boy"?  And telling me to get my facts straight when your direct quote USED THE WORD "need" to limit what YOU think of as "reasonable" exercise of the 2nd amendment. And, as far as I am concerned, that means you do NOT understand the actual intent of the 2nd Amendment.


If you don't like my response, then bug off and stop replying to my posts. Next time I will capitalize the "B."

I'm not going to waste my time covering the same old ground with you. I said I limited my opinion to that I felt a person didn't "reasonably" need a machine gun for self protection (considering the almost in numerous array of guns and weapons legally available). I didn't say I wanted bump fire stocks banned. My point being, that giving up bump fire stocks is not a great price to pay (my opinion) in light of how so many people will now negatively perceive them due to their use in the Las Vegas massacre, and now demand they be banned.

Diane Feinstein and a multitude of others of her ilk are right now calling for the banning of bump fire gun stocks.

If you are such a 2nd Amendment purest, then by all means go out and try to score a bazooka, shoulder fired rockets, and any other hand-held weapon of your choice for self protection. Plus, stockpile all the bump fire stocks you can before they are outlawed.

I can live without owning a machine gun for self protection, and settle for the 10 long guns, pistols, and revolvers I now own, and more guns that I plan on getting.


  
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Re: President Trump: ‘We’ll Be Talking About Gun Laws’
Reply #37 - 10/04/17 at 20:32:38
 
When has making something illegal stopped people from doing it?
  

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Re: President Trump: ‘We’ll Be Talking About Gun Laws’
Reply #38 - 10/04/17 at 21:14:03
 
Oh ye of little faith!  Grin

Just because President Trump made the statement he did, doesn't mean he's going to trash the 2nd.

We know the NRA would be all over him like snot on your upper lip!

TALKING about it, doesn't really imply CHANGING it.

And, frankly, I'm tired of hearing dems talk about weapons, about which they know absolutely nothing!  Most of them have never fired a weapon. 
All they know is what they see in the "moo'm pi'tchers"!
  

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Re: President Trump: ‘We’ll Be Talking About Gun Laws’
Reply #39 - 10/04/17 at 21:37:22
 
oldcoot wrote on 10/04/17 at 21:14:03:
Oh ye of little faith!  Grin

Just because President Trump made the statement he did, doesn't mean he's going to trash the 2nd.

We know the NRA would be all over him like snot on your upper lip!

TALKING about it, doesn't really imply CHANGING it.

And, frankly, I'm tired of hearing dems talk about weapons, about which they know absolutely nothing!  Most of them have never fired a weapon. 
All they know is what they see in the "moo'm pi'tchers"!

But they like their personal security detail to have guns, dont they?
  

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