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Presidential defining moment - DACA amnesty
12/29/17 at 22:49:19
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Listened to Mark Steyn substituting for Rush today.  He said that he believes what President Trump does on immigration will define his Presidency.  He feels that immigration was the cornerstone of his campaign.  It certainly was for me.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/28/a-presidency-defining-moment-...

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/12/29/mark-steyn-end-trump-presidency-will-s...

Will we be the United States of America for it's citizens, or do we become Europe?

I just can't get a read on how this is going to go.  I feel that NO ONE will stop it.

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Re: Presidential defining moment - DACA amnesty
Reply #1 - 12/29/17 at 22:50:43
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If there is any kind of amnesty Trump will lose his base and his presidency in 2020.
  

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Reply #2 - 12/29/17 at 22:58:42
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just google.... Trump says no DACA deal before border wall funding.
  

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Re: Presidential defining moment - DACA amnesty
Reply #3 - 12/29/17 at 23:33:51
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DACA is just the tip of the iceberg, in my opinion.

There are so many people here illegally and more every day.  How about getting rid of Visa overstayers????

I keep hearing about "criminal aliens."  Fine, get them out, but also other illegals.  They have NO RIGHT to be here.

I will do a separate post about anchor babies.

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Reply #4 - 12/29/17 at 23:37:27
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       Consider this: President Trump succeeds with getting wall funding, then it'll take years for sections of the southern border barrier to slowly grow.  The moment Dem's get control of the House, Senate, or executive seat all wall activity will stop.
       The reason American's won't work is they don't have too.  The typical welfare / disability payout is between $20,000 - $34,000 a year.  YIKES!  Those people have plenty of time to find under the table work, deal drugs, engage in crimes, etc.  None of this is a secret.  We've all heard it for 30 + years.
       So!, why not straighten out this mess?  Reel in the welfare industry.  Develop a workfare program (which has to be protected from the scam workman's comp system) and there won't be a need to hire illegals.
  
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Reply #5 - 12/29/17 at 23:40:51
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SurroundedByLiberals wrote on 12/29/17 at 23:37:27:
       Consider this: President Trump succeeds with getting wall funding, then it'll take years for sections of the southern border barrier to slowly grow.  The moment Dem's get control of the House, Senate, or executive seat all wall activity will stop.
       The reason American's won't work is they don't have too.  The typical welfare / disability payout is between $20,000 - $34,000 a year.  YIKES!  Those people have plenty of time to find under the table work, deal drugs, engage in crimes, etc.  None of this is a secret.  We've all heard it for 30 + years.
       So!, why not straighten out this mess?  Reel in the welfare industry.  Develop a workfare program (which has to be protected from the scam workman's comp system) and there won't be a need to hire illegals. 


I am all for ending welfare programs.  But, this is a different cancer affecting the country in so many ways.  It's not that these are necessarily BAD people.  But they are NOT Americans and are diluting our culture and whole everything about this country.

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Reply #6 - 12/29/17 at 23:46:59
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Affirmative.  Those illegals get welfare too.
  
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Reply #7 - 12/30/17 at 00:59:38
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SurroundedByLiberals wrote on 12/29/17 at 23:46:59:
Affirmative.  Those illegals get welfare too.


Why aren't people OUTRAGED about this?  Do they know?

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Reply #8 - 12/30/17 at 01:01:28
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I know and I've been outraged for a long time.
  
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Re: Presidential defining moment - DACA amnesty
Reply #9 - 12/30/17 at 01:18:05
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Lily003 wrote on 12/30/17 at 00:59:38:
Why aren't people OUTRAGED about this?  Do they know?

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Yes, they do know. Most have no idea how many illegal aliens are in the US. Best guess estimate is between 30 to 50 M. IF citizens knew the true numbers they MIGHT force their elected representatives into action. I recently received a message from Senator Enzi (R. Wyoming) in reply to my email concerning the DREAMERS. He  said, quote, "Now Congress needs to ensure that our immigration laws are compassionate, especially to children."  My reply back, I did not vote for compassion, I voted for enforcing our existing  immigration laws. We are being sold out by both political parties on the illegal immigration issue and I do not know how to stop it. We cannot seem to get those politician's who want them here voted out of office. I see no way out of this unless citizens do it themselves and that is not going to happen.
  

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