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Re: So even kids can't be forced to stand for the National Anthem
Reply #10 - 01/01/18 at 15:32:17
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But this is ok......

  

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Re: So even kids can't be forced to stand for the National Anthem
Reply #11 - 01/01/18 at 16:40:06
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If you raise them with respect for God, Family and Country, you wouldn't have to *force* them to stand.  It all starts at an early stage, maybe like 3 or 4.  There is only one exception, and that is religious reasons, but even then they stood at attention, or left the room.  Wink
  

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Re: So even kids can't be forced to stand for the National Anthem
Reply #12 - 01/01/18 at 18:35:22
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The kids that refuse to stand will spend the rest of the day laughing.
No education here. Talk about enslaving ones self. Some had better rethink the concept of a person being related to slavery about 200 years ago. It's coming back thru ignorance.
Good job Dept of Education.
  
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Re: So even kids can't be forced to stand for the National Anthem
Reply #13 - 01/01/18 at 19:09:52
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This is kind of funny!  So it's not right to teach kids to stand for the anthem?  Teach them it's OK to refuse to say the pledge of allegiance?
That it's OK to KNEEL in protest??

Once these habits are solidly in place, you'll probably discover your kid now won't listen to the teachings of your religion(s), or the disciplines of schools and other social venues, either.
Just what the commies want.  They are really gung-ho on breaking up the family and they're doing it by countering the teachings of patriotism; of church and social manners.
It's OK to fart in public--or at the dinner table--or chew with their mouths open, so we can be awed by the mushy contents of their mouths.  Who needs manners??
Children are ignorant little cavemen.  They act like cavemen unless they are firmly disciplined. 

I had 3 boys.  When we went to watch parades, they all learned to place their hands over their hearts as the flag marched by.
When I took them to an ice cream parlor, they knew their manners and did not shout, fight, or cause any kind of disturbance, because they knew daddy would whip their butts in public--which fact embarrassed them, more than injured them.

A parent's job is to teach and be an example of good manners; be a patriotic citizen who respects what a flag stands for and what the country stands for, regardless of parties and their philosophies. 
If ALL parents did this, there would BE no liberals!

  

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Re: So even kids can't be forced to stand for the National Anthem
Reply #14 - 01/01/18 at 20:38:38
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cj_real_american wrote on 01/01/18 at 16:40:06:
If you raise them with respect for God, Family and Country, you wouldn't have to *force* them to stand.  It all starts at an early stage, maybe like 3 or 4.  There is only one exception, and that is religious reasons, but even then they stood at attention, or left the room.  Wink


Thank you CupCake. THAT's My point. These "children" are not raising themselves.  I am a free speech absolutist.  I do not want to grant the givermint ANY power to force ANYONE to violate their conscience.

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Re: So even kids can't be forced to stand for the National Anthem
Reply #15 - 01/01/18 at 20:42:46
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"Fire????"
  
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Re: So even kids can't be forced to stand for the National Anthem
Reply #16 - 01/01/18 at 21:10:46
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newt2008 wrote on 12/31/17 at 20:36:24:
No one should be "forced" to respect the flag or the national anthem.  If you don't know that you should respect them and why you are not worth it.

Ms. Borelli

The problem is that our children are not being taught why the US flag and National Anthem are important symbols.  They have utterly no clue what either symbolizes because they are being indoctrinated and not taught.

If children were actually educated there would be far fewer who sit while the National Anthem is played, or refuse to respect the flag.  There will still be some, of course, there always is, but I think the overwhelming majority of children would be much more respectful if they were given that education.
  
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Re: So even kids can't be forced to stand for the National Anthem
Reply #17 - 01/01/18 at 21:23:44
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oldcoot wrote on 01/01/18 at 19:09:52:
A parent's job is to teach and be an example of good manners; be a patriotic citizen who respects what a flag stands for and what the country stands for, regardless of parties and their philosophies. 
If ALL parents did this, there would BE no liberals!


I absolutely agree, and it is also important for them to know what patriotism means.  They should be taught the founding principles of the nation as a means of instilling pride in their country.  Neither the US flag or National Anthem represent who is currently in office, it represents our struggle for "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."  Ideals we have been striving toward for 242 years.  They need to know that the US flag represents all those who have died for that ideal.

Only then will they understand that showing disrespect to the National Anthem and US flag is not just disrespecting the founding principles of the nation, but also spitting in the face of everyone who has died for those ideals.

It is their ignorance, and arrogance, that makes them think they are protesting Trump or some other stupid current cause.  They literally have no idea how offensive the overwhelming majority of people find this behavior.
  
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Re: So even kids can't be forced to stand for the National Anthem
Reply #18 - 01/01/18 at 23:10:18
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oldcoot wrote on 01/01/18 at 19:09:52:
When we went to watch parades, they all learned to place their hands over their hearts as the flag marched by.

A parent's job is to teach and be an example of good manners

I can remember school movies such as I Am Joe's Heart etc.  there were also movies about when to stand and put your handover your heart.  My guess is that they aren't showing those anymore.
  Yes.  It is up to me to teach my son manners.  And he can fart with the best of us.
  

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Re: So even kids can't be forced to stand for the National Anthem
Reply #19 - 01/01/18 at 23:53:55
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Here's another example of letting the inmates run the asylum.

Actress Debra Messing told her 13 year old son it was okay NOT to stand for the Anthem.

www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/01/01/nbc-star-debra-messing-praises-13-year-...

Sure, teach your kids it's okay not to respect the country.  That will serve him well in life.

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