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Poll Question: If All DACA's Were Deported, How Would It Affect Jobs?
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Minor Increase In College Educated Jobs    
  1 (7.1%)
Minor Increase In "Hamburger Flipper" Jobs    
  6 (42.9%)
Major Increase In "Hamburger Flipper" Jobs    
  5 (35.7%)
Major Increase In College Educated Jobs    
  2 (14.3%)




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Reply #10 - 01/02/18 at 15:29:35
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|Glitch| wrote on 01/02/18 at 03:38:24:
"Anchor babies" spare the child from being deported, but not the parents.  If the parents are in the US illegally, regardless of how many children they have while in the US, then they need to be deported.

The number of years they have been in the US illegally is irrelevant.  Just because we didn't enforce the law then doesn't mean we shouldn't enforce the law now.  But that isn't likely to happen now.

Trump wants to give these illegals amnesty, and so do many of the GOP in Congress.  Which is why Trump will not abolish the illegal and unconstitutional DACA program.  So much for his campaign promise.


They are not going to deport parents of anchor babies.  They just aren't, so I never even consider it.

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What affect on jobs?
Practically none since it's about the children.
Besides, any jobs lost would immediately be available to the public.
  

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oldcoot wrote on 01/02/18 at 15:39:14:
What affect on jobs?
Practically none since it's about the children.
Besides, any jobs lost would immediately be available to the public.


These are not CHILDREN.  Some are as much as 35 years old.  These are pretty broad criteria.  I'll include the link again describing criteria for it.  MANY are adults, and some have children of their own already.

https://www.uscis.gov/archive/consideration-deferred-action-childhood-arrivals-d...

Most of these people are in prime working ages and do compete with our own children.

I think if other immigration laws had been followed, many of us would be way more sympathetic about it.  But since there has been an endless stream of ignoring illegal aliens, it's just another insult.  Remember the summer of "unaccompanied minors" just flowing into the country?  Remember the images of thousands on top of trains?  We are still supporting most of them.  Others just released into the wind.  Will they be the next group to be amnestied?

Lack of immigration control is a national disgrace to the citizens of the USA.

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Reply #13 - 01/03/18 at 07:37:50
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Our Poll shows 75% thinks DACA have low income jobs.  The actual percentage is not that high, but it is indeed the case in terms of education. 

In an ongoing study called the National UnDACAmented Research Project, Harvard researcher Roberto G. Gonzalez has surveyed more than 2,000 self-identified DACA recipients about their education levels. He found that 22 percent have earned a bachelor’s degree, compared to about 32 percent of all Americans who hold a bachelor’s degree, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

Gonzalez also found that 21 percent of DACA recipients have dropped out of high school, far above the national dropout rate of 5.9 percent, according to the National Center for Education Statistics.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/11/the-numbers-behind-the-dreamers/

It appears our Poll is pretty accurate.  The DACA's do not hold a large percent of quality jobs.
  
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Reply #14 - 01/03/18 at 11:23:18
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It may only slightly affect jobs but would greatly affect government entitlement spending.

Local, state and federal governments will slow down going into deeper debt which would ultimately increase the value of the U.S. dollar.
  
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Reply #15 - 01/03/18 at 11:42:51
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Lily003 wrote on 01/02/18 at 16:30:35:
These are not CHILDREN.  Some are as much as 35 years old.  These are pretty broad criteria.  I'll include the link again describing criteria for it.  MANY are adults, and some have children of their own already.

https://www.uscis.gov/archive/consideration-deferred-action-childhood-arrivals-d...

Most of these people are in prime working ages and do compete with our own children.

I think if other immigration laws had been followed, many of us would be way more sympathetic about it.  But since there has been an endless stream of ignoring illegal aliens, it's just another insult.  Remember the summer of "unaccompanied minors" just flowing into the country?  Remember the images of thousands on top of trains?  We are still supporting most of them.  Others just released into the wind.  Will they be the next group to be amnestied?

Lack of immigration control is a national disgrace to the citizens of the USA.

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Spot on ! We could never forget the summer of the Obama Children's Crusade with the unaccompanied children coming in from all over S. America. Many even being flown in and scattered in all 50 states for their care and feeding. Some of the "children" were as young as 3  while others were bald and had a beard. No one except Obama could ever have gotten away with something like this. It was part of his plan for a new and improved, fundamentally transformed America. It was a smashing success to help destroy our nation.
  

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Reply #16 - 01/03/18 at 12:40:44
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Very little we would just have our college kids dishing out hamburgers is all. Here in WNC McD's is already paying $10.00 an hour, contractors can not get help now and are starting out at $12.00+ an hour with zero experience.
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Reply #17 - 01/03/18 at 12:44:37
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I am not pro illegal immigrant but if daca is not fixed Seattle will be in a world of hurt. There are so many jobs here and no one to fill them. Low and high paying jobs. I can’t say I wouldn’t be sorry for this liberal state to see it happen though. There is no excuse not to have a job here. The ones I know that aren’t working are druggies and we pay for their drugs via welfare.
  
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Reply #18 - 01/03/18 at 12:48:30
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Lily003 wrote on 01/02/18 at 15:27:54:
If the President signs the bill, he becomes part of it.

I never hear him talk about anyone but CRIMINAL illegal aliens being deported.  Criminals are only one group of illegal aliens.  There are MILLIONS of people in this country illegally.  Why don't we hear about them being deported?  MILLIONS since Ronald Reagan promised NO MORE amnesty.  And I say this liking President Trump.

No such thing as "can't."  The operative word here is "won't."

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I'd say that you nailed that. Lots of talk, little action.
  
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Reply #19 - 01/03/18 at 15:08:09
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bigmck wrote on 01/02/18 at 07:45:10:
Trump has already done everything in his Constitutional Power by eliminating the DACA Executive Order that Obama signed.  If Congress wants to make the DACA's people legal, they can pass a Bill.  I can see you do not like Trump.

No, he did not.  Trump said he was going to "wind down" DACA.  The permits do not expire until March 6, 2018.  The illegal and unconstitutional DACA Executive Order remains in effect and is still being enforced.  Only Congress can make DACA legal, that is the problem.  Trump is continuing to enforce an illegal and an unconstitutional EO.

I see you are a Trump sycophant who will manufacture any excuse to cover for him and his broken promises.
  
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