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Trump ICE pick: Politicians who run sanctuary cities should be charged with crimes
01/02/18 at 23:42:31
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President Trump's pick to run Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) on Tuesday called for a crackdown on so-called sanctuary cities, saying politicians who help run them should be charged with crimes.

In an interview with Fox News' Neil Cavuto, ICE Acting Director Thomas Homan said the Department of Justice needs "to file charges against the sanctuary cities" and "hold back their funding."

Homan, who was announced in December as President Trump's pick to permanently run the agency, went on to say that politicians enforcing sanctuary city policies need to be held "personally accountable."

"We gotta take [sanctuary cities] to court, and we gotta start charging some of these politicians with crimes," he said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/367167-trump-ice-pick-politicians-who...

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Re: Trump ICE pick: Politicians who run sanctuary cities should be charged with crimes
Reply #1 - 01/03/18 at 00:42:38
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Absolutely true.

You can't let every grandiose politician making his/her own rules as they go along.

Now let's see them held accountable.  Talk is cheap.

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Re: Trump ICE pick: Politicians who run sanctuary cities should be charged with crimes
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Lily003 wrote on 01/03/18 at 00:42:38:
Absolutely true.

You can't let every grandiose politician making his/her own rules as they go along.

Now let's see them held accountable.  Talk is cheap.

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Brown thinks california is his own country....
  

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Re: Trump ICE pick: Politicians who run sanctuary cities should be charged with crimes
Reply #3 - 01/03/18 at 13:24:22
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This guy seems really tough.  He was on Fox last night.  I think he will do a lot of good.  He just got his Power, so give him a bit of time to do something.
  
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Re: Trump ICE pick: Politicians who run sanctuary cities should be charged with crimes
Reply #4 - 01/03/18 at 14:20:44
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bigmck wrote on 01/03/18 at 13:24:22:
This guy seems really tough.  He was on Fox last night.  I think he will do a lot of good.  He just got his Power, so give him a bit of time to do something. 

I agree.  But one of the things the feds have to be careful of is State's rights.
It allows them to do things the feds can't do.  (I hope this isn't one of them.)

I want to see "Guberner" J. Brown arrested in his office and dragged off to a federal court.
Maybe it will teach the States that new laws are under the purview of Congress.
  

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Re: Trump ICE pick: Politicians who run sanctuary cities should be charged with crimes
Reply #5 - 01/03/18 at 14:31:27
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Im pretty sure a state can not create a law that contradicts federal law.
  

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Re: Trump ICE pick: Politicians who run sanctuary cities should be charged with crimes
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countzero wrote on 01/03/18 at 14:31:27:
Im pretty sure a state can not create a law that contradicts federal law.

Nope, they can't---but by ignoring the federal laws they don't like, they hope to get away with it.
  

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Re: Trump ICE pick: Politicians who run sanctuary cities should be charged with crimes
Reply #7 - 01/03/18 at 15:59:05
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Lily003 wrote on 01/03/18 at 00:42:38:
Absolutely true.

You can't let every grandiose politician making his/her own rules as they go along.

Now let's see them held accountable.  Talk is cheap.

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Actually, you can and we do.  That is why we have States.  States are not required to enforce federal law, and immigration law is federal law.  They are not committing any crimes by not enforcing federal law, because that is not their jurisdiction.  Now if States refuse to cooperate, then by all means Congress should cut federal funding to those States.  Federal cooperation is a two-way street.  If States won't help the federal government enforce federal law, then the federal government won't help those States with funding.  But it is going to take something we have never seen before - a Republican congressional majority with a set of balls.

Another solution might be for Congress to hire more ICE agents, in order to compensate for the lack of support by sanctuary States and cities.  The very first place these extra ICE agents should be deployed is to those sanctuary States and cities.  Personally, I like this option the least.  I don't like anything that expands the size and scope of the government.  I much prefer the fund cutting option.

If you wanted to be especially nasty, Congress could tell those sanctuary States and cities that the federal funding they would have received is now being spent on the salaries for ICE agents being deployed in their area.   Grin
  
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Re: Trump ICE pick: Politicians who run sanctuary cities should be charged with crimes
Reply #8 - 01/03/18 at 16:48:26
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Congress is out. They will not help President Trump with anything. (They only listen to suspected crooked attorneys)
Someone must be able to do something, harboring fugitives?
Used to be a crime.
God help us.
  
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Re: Trump ICE pick: Politicians who run sanctuary cities should be charged with crimes
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|Glitch| wrote on 01/03/18 at 15:59:05:
Actually, you can and we do.  That is why we have States.  States are not required to enforce federal law, and immigration law is federal law.  They are not committing any crimes by not enforcing federal law, because that is not their jurisdiction.  Now if States refuse to cooperate, then by all means Congress should cut federal funding to those States.  Federal cooperation is a two-way street.  If States won't help the federal government enforce federal law, then the federal government won't help those States with funding.  But it is going to take something we have never seen before - a Republican congressional majority with a set of balls.

Another solution might be for Congress to hire more ICE agents, in order to compensate for the lack of support by sanctuary States and cities.  The very first place these extra ICE agents should be deployed is to those sanctuary States and cities.  Personally, I like this option the least.  I don't like anything that expands the size and scope of the government.  I much prefer the fund cutting option.

If you wanted to be especially nasty, Congress could tell those sanctuary States and cities that the federal funding they would have received is now being spent on the salaries for ICE agents being deployed in their area.   Grin


States are not required to enforce Federal Law you say.  Come on........even you know better than that.  Why do you think we have a nation?   Check out Article VI of the Constitution and reply.

The law that applies to situations where state and federal laws disagree is called the supremacy clause, which is part of article VI of the Constitution. The supremacy clause contains what’s known as the doctrine of pre-emption, which says that the federal government wins in the case of conflicting legislation. Basically, if a federal and state law contradict, then when you’re in the state you can follow the state law, but the feds can decide to stop you. When there is a conflict between a state law and federal law, it is the federal law that prevails. For example, if a federal regulation prohibits the use of medical marijuana, but a state regulation allows it, the federal law prevails.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/lesley-daunt/state-vs-federal-law-who-_b_4676579....

  
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