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03/25/18 at 15:01:33
 
--Egads!  Suddenly we're swamped with democrats invading a conservative forum, attempting to convince us the man we elected is either a loser; a dummy, or a letch--or all three!

What I suspect is, he's simply a guy doing the best he can against a loaded deck.
Ever dive into a swift river current, or a riptide in the ocean?  If you have, you'll have some idea of what he's struggling with.
For a true conservative (such as those here who claim to be) to demand 8 years work in one is not just stupid, it's moronic!

Take, for example, our military.  Several of our members think our military is the most powerful in the world, because we have something like 8700 Abrams tanks.  One question:  Do we have 8700 tank drivers?
Sure, we have some serious weapons, just like we did at the Chosin reservoir, where some of our crack Marines got their butts kicked by a FAR superior number of Chinese troops.  Doesn't mean there was anything wrong with the Marines, or their equipment.  They killed one helluva lot of people---but they were simply overwhelmed.

With that being said, how does our military fair today?
Well, it's not the super power I WISH it was.  Obama has seen to that.
Here are just a few instances that demonstrate how small our military is, thanks to that con man the dems elected:

Lindsey Graham: Army is smallest since 1940, Navy smallest since 1915

Pentagon Plans to Shrink Army to Pre-World War II Level]

How Obama Shrank the military

So I still believe POTUS did the right thing by making military priority one.  After all, at the end of Obama's term in 2017, do any of you critics really believe we've had a chance to repair what Obutthead destroyed?

I'd say it's going to take a minimum of 4 years (with one gone) to rebuild our strength.
Let me emphasis again, my original point.  One F35 can't kill 10 Russian F-37.  (And we can't be sure it can do it, one-on-one!)
Take a look--Popular Mechanics is even talking about it.
Popular Mechanics/
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Re: Facts and Myths About Our Military--
Reply #1 - 03/25/18 at 15:31:37
 
oldcoot wrote on 03/25/18 at 15:01:33:
--Egads!  Suddenly we're swamped with democrats invading a conservative forum, attempting to convince us the man we elected is either a loser; a dummy, or a letch--or all three!

(snip)

The long and the short:  If Trump is your president, support him.  If he isn't---go-, well, I won't finish that one. Wink Grin


Support of one's president does not mean blindly accepting anything and everything he does. A number of us are of the opinion that signing this omnibus spending bill was a mistake, and a betrayal of campaign promises to reduce pork spending. Some of us are of the opinion he accepted the best he could get. So we differ in opinion. Thinking people often end up that way. Far better we disagree once in a while than allow ourselves to be turned into the mindless drones that populate the progressive movement.

Accusing people of being liberal demoncraps simply because they criticize President Trump for signing the spending bill is the kinds of thing I would expect from a liberal demoncrap. "Oh, you disagree, so you must be the extreme (choose your favorite demonizing label here.)"

Bullstuff.

Yes, there are those of us who do not fully trust President Trump. The FACT that he supported Obama and the demoncrap agenda in 2008 does not make for a lot of trust in his recent dedication to conservatism. He has done some very good things to support his campaign rhetoric. He has also done some things that do not support what he said in his campaign. Signing this omnibus bill is one of them - in the opinion of many of us, including myself.

Our military is admittedly in shoddy condition after Obama had his way with it. There is a ton of cleanup to do. Does that mean Trump had no choice but to accept spending 1.3 TRILLION dollars in SIX MONTHS? In the opinion of many of us, no, it was NOT his only choice. President Trump could have vetoed, allowed the federal government to be shut down a few days, or even a couple weeks, and told congress "Get rid of some of that fracking pork!!"

He chose not to. And I, plus many others here who are most definitely dedicated constitutional conservatives, are of the opinion doing so just sets things up for more extortion from Congress, every time they wait until the last minute to pass an omnibus spending bill.

Last, I have not seen a single post calling President Trump a lech, or which supports or agrees with the media's attacks on Trump's history with various women.  Not one. All I see is people complaining about how the media and demoncraps are practicing pure hypocrisy considering how they treated Slick Willy's dalliances.
  
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Reply #2 - 03/25/18 at 15:44:21
 
oldcoot wrote on 03/25/18 at 15:01:33:
--Egads!  Suddenly we're swamped with democrats invading a conservative forum, attempting to convince us the man we elected is either a loser; a dummy, or a letch--or all three!

What I suspect is, he's simply a guy doing the best he can against a loaded deck.
Ever dive into a swift river current, or a riptide in the ocean?  If you have, you'll have some idea of what he's struggling with.
For a true conservative (such as those here who claim to be) to demand 8 years work in one is not just stupid, it's moronic!

Take, for example, our military.  Several of our members think our military is the most powerful in the world, because we have something like 8700 Abrams tanks.  One question:  Do we have 8700 tank drivers?
Sure, we have some serious weapons, just like we did at the Chosin reservoir, where some of our crack Marines got their butts kicked by a FAR superior number of Chinese troops.  Doesn't mean there was anything wrong with the Marines, or their equipment.  They killed one helluva lot of people---but they were simply overwhelmed.

With that being said, how does our military fair today?
Well, it's not the super power I WISH it was.  Obama has seen to that.
Here are just a few instances that demonstrate how small our military is, thanks to that con man the dems elected:

Lindsey Graham: Army is smallest since 1940, Navy smallest since 1915

Pentagon Plans to Shrink Army to Pre-World War II Level]

How Obama Shrank the military

So I still believe POTUS did the right thing by making military priority one.  After all, at the end of Obama's term in 2017, do any of you critics really believe we've had a chance to repair what Obutthead destroyed?

I'd say it's going to take a minimum of 4 years (with one gone) to rebuild our strength.
Let me emphasis again, my original point.  One F35 can't kill 10 Russian F-37.  (And we can't be sure it can do it, one-on-one!)
Take a look--Popular Mechanics is even talking about it.
Popular Mechanics/
The long and the short:  If Trump is your president, support him.  If he isn't---go-, well, I won't finish that one. Wink Grin




There is so much inaccurate information in this post it's hard to even approach.

For one, there is no such thing as an F-37. There is a Sukhoi Su-37 that was merely a tech demo. There was only ever ONE built and it's just a fancy Su-27 anyway. Also, the F-35 is a multi-role fighter and isn't even our air superiority backbone. The F-22 is unmatched when it comes to production fighters by an extremely wide margin. Between the F-35 and F-22 we have over 500 operational 5th generation fighters in the USAF. The Russians barely have 550 across ALL of their fighters. Even with the attempt of the Russians to modernize their fleet, they are decades behind the US. We are dumping money into acquisition programs for platforms we dont need. R&D funds are one thing, but taking R&D and pushing it into production is simply not necessary and in many ways actually hurts us.

When did you serve? Our armed forces are the most highly skilled, highly funded group on the planet bar none. This budget provides a TWO PERCENT increase in funding and isn't going to dramatically increase our total force strength. This is just another example of people abusing the military to accomplish ulterior motives, notably funding wasteful programs that military leaders have even come out against.
  
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Re: Facts and Myths About Our Military--
Reply #3 - 03/25/18 at 16:27:39
 
ZeWazir wrote on 03/25/18 at 15:31:37:
Support of one's president does not mean blindly accepting anything and everything he does. A number of us are of the opinion that signing this omnibus spending bill was a mistake, and a betrayal of campaign promises to reduce pork spending. Some of us are of the opinion he accepted the best he could get. So we differ in opinion. Thinking people often end up that way. Far better we disagree once in a while than allow ourselves to be turned into the mindless drones that populate the progressive movement.
I didn't say blindly accept anything.  In fact, I don't like the fact he signed the bill, either, but I'm not going to call him names like "loser", etc., because I'm unhappy with his decision.  I would guess he has a plan of action, which may explain his actions and I've said, all along, we have to give him time to show it.
Sometimes people who read this forum are influenced by what is posted.  I know a couple of people like that.  Bashing Trump over this one incident is not my idea of support.

Accusing people of being liberal demoncraps simply because they criticize President Trump for signing the spending bill is the kinds of thing I would expect from a liberal demoncrap. "Oh, you disagree, so you must be the extreme (choose your favorite demonizing label here.)"Fact:  I did not call anyone a "demoncrap" in this post.

Bullstuff.
  (Does that mean, "bullsh*t"?? Grin

Yes, there are those of us who do not fully trust President Trump. The FACT that he supported Obama and the demoncrap agenda in 2008 does not make for a lot of trust in his recent dedication to conservatism. He has done some very good things to support his campaign rhetoric. He has also done some things that do not support what he said in his campaign. Signing this omnibus bill is one of them - in the opinion of many of us, including myself.
("He's done some things"?  In my opinion, the arguments against his actions are over the top and generally not known to be true.)
Our military is admittedly in shoddy condition after Obama had his way with it. There is a ton of cleanup to do. Does that mean Trump had no choice but to accept spending 1.3 TRILLION dollars in SIX MONTHS? In the opinion of many of us, no, it was NOT his only choice. President Trump could have vetoed, allowed the federal government to be shut down a few days, or even a couple weeks, and told congress "Get rid of some of that fracking pork!!"
The dems wouldn't let him get away with that.  He'd get hammered.
He chose not to. And I, plus many others here who are most definitely dedicated constitutional conservatives, are of the opinion doing so just sets things up for more extortion from Congress, every time they wait until the last minute to pass an omnibus spending bill.

And you blame Trump for the lateness of the bill?  Remember, the House added their share of pork.  I seriously doubt Trump added much if any!
Last, I have not seen a single post calling President Trump a lech, or which supports or agrees with the media's attacks on Trump's history with various women.  Not one. All I see is people complaining about how the media and demoncraps are practicing pure hypocrisy considering how they treated Slick Willy's dalliances.

Hoo, BOY!  I haven't been "shellacked" in a long time.  Wouldn't be so bad if your facts were straight!
You take me to task for chastising those who proclaim themselves conservatives, but get peeved and petulant when he does something they don't like.
Still, you criticize me, because, I have a different opinion.
As for "letch"--Rather than list all the names, it's simply the word I chose depicting the various names he's been called over the past year.
  

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Reply #4 - 03/25/18 at 16:52:51
 
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There is so much inaccurate information in this post it's hard to even approach.

For one, there is no such thing as an F-37. There is a Sukhoi Su-37 that was merely a tech demo. There was only ever ONE built and it's just a fancy Su-27 anyway. Also, the F-35 is a multi-role fighter and isn't even our air superiority backbone. The F-22 is unmatched when it comes to production fighters by an extremely wide margin. Between the F-35 and F-22 we have over 500 operational 5th generation fighters in the USAF. The Russians barely have 550 across ALL of their fighters. Even with the attempt of the Russians to modernize their fleet, they are decades behind the US. We are dumping money into acquisition programs for platforms we dont need. R&D funds are one thing, but taking R&D and pushing it into production is simply not necessary and in many ways actually hurts us.

When did you serve? Our armed forces are the most highly skilled, highly funded group on the planet bar none. This budget provides a TWO PERCENT increase in funding and isn't going to dramatically increase our total force strength. This is just another example of people abusing the military to accomplish ulterior motives, notably funding wasteful programs that military leaders have even come out against.


Try this.  You'll find pictures, so it will be easy for you to understand.  Incidentally, I'll admit to a typing error on the SU-57.
As for the F-22, yes, many have been deployed, however you're behind on the F35.

F/A-37-Talon  (Is it real, or fake?)


SU-57

Foreign deployments of F-35

1st Marines Deploy F-35 in Japan

Incidentally #2, where and when I served is not really your business.  I will say, I probably served before you were a gleam inl your daddy's eye.  That doesn't mean I haven't followed the condition of our military--along with a lot of other subjects.
  

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Reply #5 - 03/25/18 at 18:58:50
 
oldcoot wrote on 03/25/18 at 16:52:51:
Try this.  You'll find pictures, so it will be easy for you to understand.  Incidentally, I'll admit to a typing error on the SU-57.
As for the F-22, yes, many have been deployed, however you're behind on the F35.

F/A-37-Talon  (Is it real, or fake?)


SU-57

Foreign deployments of F-35

1st Marines Deploy F-35 in Japan

Incidentally #2, where and when I served is not really your business.  I will say, I probably served before you were a gleam inl your daddy's eye.  That doesn't mean I haven't followed the condition of our military--along with a lot of other subjects.



You have got to be kidding me....

The F/A-37 Talon is from a damn movie. The 2005 movie Stealth.

Considering I am retired Air Force I have serious doubts about ANY claim you have if you can't even discern the difference between operational/experimental aircraft and those made-up for a movie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stealth_(film)

What exactly is your claim that I am behind on with the F-35? That we sold them to our allies? That these are stripped down versions that lack quite a few of the components that make our variants superior? I am not concerned that our allies have access to watered down versions of a multi-role fighter, the F-22 is still our designated air superiority vehicle. You listed the Su-57/PAK FA derivative which is still not superior to the F-22, and two is still not actively deployed and only in prototype stages. Sanctions on Russia have done far more damage to their military than any theoretical arms race ever has.

So apparently all those subjects you "followed along with" need quite a bit more work.
  
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Reply #6 - 03/25/18 at 19:23:18
 
oldcoot wrote on 03/25/18 at 16:27:39:
Hoo, BOY!  I haven't been "shellacked" in a long time.  Wouldn't be so bad if your facts were straight!
You take me to task for chastising those who proclaim themselves conservatives, but get peeved and petulant when he does something they don't like.
Still, you criticize me, because, I have a different opinion.
As for "letch"--Rather than list all the names, it's simply the word I chose depicting the various names he's been called over the past year.

I did not in any way criticize you for having a different opinion. I criticized the manner you attack those whose opinion differed from yours. There is a difference. I criticized your attack as uncalled for - especially labeling people as democrat (which I call demoncraps, since that is more descriptive of their agenda.) for daring to criticize President Trump.

So some people label Trump a "loser" because he caved on the ominbus bill.  "Winners never quit." as the saying goes. And from some of our point of view, Trump quit on us and his campaign promises, and signed one of the largest spending boondoggles in American history into law. So, to some, that makes him a loser. I did not and would not use that term - yet. We'll see how he handles the next omnibus bill, coming to the D.C. area at the end of September. Others did, because they are angry. I understand their anger.

But, by the wording of your post, if we do not support Trump, according to YOUR definition of "support", we are supposed to go somewhere you then felt may be inappropriate to suggest? Sorry, I find that type of rhetoric to be unnecessary and divisive.

For the record, I do respect you, quite a lot, according to the vast majority of what you write here.
  
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Reply #7 - 03/25/18 at 20:49:26
 
ZeWazir wrote on 03/25/18 at 19:23:18:
I did not in any way criticize you for having a different opinion. I criticized the manner you attack those whose opinion differed from yours. There is a difference. I criticized your attack as uncalled for - especially labeling people as democrat (which I call demoncraps, since that is more descriptive of their agenda.) for daring to criticize President Trump.   Grin You people call Trump a "Loser", then criticize me for calling you "Democrats"??  Grin Grin Grin

So some people label Trump a "loser" because he caved on the ominbus bill.  "Winners never quit."(And you're sure Trump has "quit"?  Oh ye, of little faith??) as the saying goes. And from some of our point of view, Trump quit on us and his campaign promises, (You have no way of knowing that!) and signed one of the largest spending boondoggles in American history into law. So, to some, that makes him a loser. I did not and would not use that term - yet. We'll see how he handles the next omnibus bill, coming to the D.C. area at the end of September. Others did, because they are angry. I understand their anger.

But, by the wording of your post, if we do not support Trump, according to YOUR definition of "support", we are supposed to go somewhere you then felt may be inappropriate to suggest? Sorry, I find that type of rhetoric to be unnecessary and divisive.
(I'm not sorry I'm a gentleman!)  Grin Grin Grin
For the record, I do respect you, quite a lot, according to the vast majority of what you write here.

Thank you!  I respect you as well.  If I didn't I'd probably call you horrible names  Grin ---But, as I said, after all, I am a gentleman.  Grin
  

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Reply #8 - 03/25/18 at 21:14:14
 
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You have got to be kidding me....

The F/A-37 Talon is from a damn movie. The 2005 movie Stealth.

Considering I am retired Air Force I have serious doubts about ANY claim you have if you can't even discern the difference between operational/experimental aircraft and those made-up for a movie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stealth_(film)

What exactly is your claim that I am behind on with the F-35? That we sold them to our allies? That these are stripped down versions that lack quite a few of the components that make our variants superior? I am not concerned that our allies have access to watered down versions of a multi-role fighter, the F-22 is still our designated air superiority vehicle. You listed the Su-57/PAK FA derivative which is still not superior to the F-22, and two is still not actively deployed and only in prototype stages. Sanctions on Russia have done far more damage to their military than any theoretical arms race ever has.

So apparently all those subjects you "followed along with" need quite a bit more work.


You DID note my comment was, "Is it real, or fake?"  So don't let your shorts too wadded!  And Frankly, Scarlet---

Here's a few more last comments.  (You have to realize the 22 vs the 35 are like apples and oranges.  You know that, right?)

The F22 is an interceptor, meaning it's specifically designed to hunt down other aircraft. It has a much more powerful radar, higher top speed, better stealth capabilities, and is more maneuverable. It's replacing some variants F15, and the Air Force is the only branch that flies them. They are not going to be sold overseas, but a few countries are attempting to copy them (and failing miserably).

The F35 is a multi-role fighter (MRF), though it's probably going to see most of its service life attacking ground targets (mebbe.) There are three variants (one for each branch) plus some watered-down export configurations that are being sold to other countries. They're intended to replace some of the Air Force's F16s and A10s, some of the Navy's F18s, and the Marine Harriers respectively. In terms of performance, the only major improvements over the aircraft it's replacing are the addition of stealth capability, and state of the art integrated computer systems. Each variant differs a bit based on what the respective branch needs. The Marines wanted a VTOL, so that's what they got - however, that capability severely hampers its fuel range, flight performance, and payload. The Navy version was designed to land on, and be stored on carriers (which means they wanted a stronger landing gear and increased fuel range), while the Air Force variant made no sacrifices or special needs.
Both are excellent aircraft--whether or not you dislike one.

Incidentally, I've followed aircraft most of my life.  since the Navy P2V patrol plane, right up through Hudson Bomber, Constellation, P-38 Lightening, SR-71 Blackbird, F-104 through the F-35.  Not in chronological order.
(I can even remember seeing Emelia Earhart fly over my hometown when I was about 5.)
  

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Reply #9 - 03/25/18 at 21:48:09
 
oldcoot wrote on 03/25/18 at 21:14:14:
You DID note my comment was, "Is it real, or fake?"  So don't let your shorts too wadded!  And Frankly, Scarlet---

Here's a few more last comments.  (You have to realize the 22 vs the 35 are like apples and oranges.  You know that, right?)

The F22 is an interceptor, meaning it's specifically designed to hunt down other aircraft. It has a much more powerful radar, higher top speed, better stealth capabilities, and is more maneuverable. It's replacing some variants F15, and the Air Force is the only branch that flies them. They are not going to be sold overseas, but a few countries are attempting to copy them (and failing miserably).

The F35 is a multi-role fighter (MRF), though it's probably going to see most of its service life attacking ground targets (mebbe.) There are three variants (one for each branch) plus some watered-down export configurations that are being sold to other countries. They're intended to replace some of the Air Force's F16s and A10s, some of the Navy's F18s, and the Marine Harriers respectively. In terms of performance, the only major improvements over the aircraft it's replacing are the addition of stealth capability, and state of the art integrated computer systems. Each variant differs a bit based on what the respective branch needs. The Marines wanted a VTOL, so that's what they got - however, that capability severely hampers its fuel range, flight performance, and payload. The Navy version was designed to land on, and be stored on carriers (which means they wanted a stronger landing gear and increased fuel range), while the Air Force variant made no sacrifices or special needs.
Both are excellent aircraft--whether or not you dislike one.

Incidentally, I've followed aircraft most of my life.  since the Navy P2V patrol plane, right up through Hudson Bomber, Constellation, P-38 Lightening, SR-71 Blackbird, F-104 through the F-35.  Not in chronological order.
(I can even remember seeing Emelia Earhart fly over my hometown when I was about 5.)



What was the point of this? I was aircrew my entire career, you are spouting off Wikipedia facts. You are the one that posited whether or not a fictional MOVIE aircraft was "real or fake?".

It appears you arent even reading my posts as not once have I said that the F-35 and F-22 were designed to fill the same role. I explicitly stated their functionality. This is a conversation about how people are using the military as a pawn to justify exorbitant government spending as they routinely do. We get trotted out like puppets so that politicians can pretend to give a damn about us while diverting funds to useless acquisition programs and not actually increasing total force strength by any appreciable amount. Trump is using the military as a scapegoat to justify signing off on a bill my grandchildren are going to be paying for. There is no massive troop recruitment/retention push, there is no massive pay increase. This funding is going towards hardware we simply do not need. The F-35 is an absolute waste of money. It has less functional range than the A-10, can't loiter anywhere near as long, can't even come close to filling the same CAS role. There is a reason we had to shut down the plans to mothball the A-10, because the F-35 is simply garbage at trying to provide CAS in the same functional capacity.

Using the military to justify this pork laden garbage is a farce. This is just going to end up making some defense contractor richer while doing nothing for actual functional military might.

I fail to understand why you think you are lecturing me on something you obviously don't fully understand. You literally confused a movie prop with some kind of skunkworks project.
  
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