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Break-up of California moves a step closer as billionaire gets enough signatures to trigger vo
04/12/18 at 11:46:48
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The chance of California splitting into three has moved a step closer after a billionaire secured enough signatures to trigger a referendum on the issue.

Tim Draper, who made his money through Hotmail and Skype, has gathered 600,000 signatures supporting the change – way above the 364,000 needed.

Those who want to break up California believe it would boost educational standards and reduce the political power of Sacramento, the state’s capital.

Providing the state authorities agree the signatures are genuine a referendum on the issue will be held this November alongside other mid-term elections.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/12/exclusive-splitting-california-three...
  
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Reply #1 - 04/12/18 at 11:49:49
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They want more Democrat Senators. No way should it be allowed. Let's divide Republican states to add two Senators. Democrats approve that?
  
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Reply #2 - 04/12/18 at 11:52:41
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CF Admin wrote on 04/12/18 at 11:49:49:
They want more Democrat Senators. No way should it be allowed. Let's divide Republican states to add two Senators. Democrats approve that?



That's a good point but I have also heard that the northern part of the state is more Republican so wouldn't they get one, possibly two senators. And if over time the ones that want to remain in the state relocate, it may ended up a 2 to 1 in favor of Republicans.

I realize there's a lot of "ifs" there but never say never. Maybe our Californians here can weigh in.
  
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Reply #3 - 04/12/18 at 11:57:23
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It depends on how the state is split up. We could end up getting a republican senator out of this. Its a great idea. We had 4.5 million Trump voters with no representation in the state. Remember that....
  

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they'd end up with a net gain of dems, no question.

these guys are not stupid.
  

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Like anything else in politics it depends on who turns out and who gets voted in if they should split. I'd like to believe and perhaps wrongly that they are lots of people in CA that don't like what's happening.

Here in NJ we have the same thing. If we divided the state... the southern part would no doubt be Republican. Luckily for me I live in a Republican county and a city in that county that won't be turning blue any time soon. Then again, I still can't wait to "get out of Dodge" since I have to still deal with state laws and politicians.
  
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Reply #6 - 04/12/18 at 12:55:42
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The coastal counties would immediately go bankrupt so it will never happen, no matter of 99% of the people vote for it.
  
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Reply #7 - 04/12/18 at 13:50:02
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They can vote to do anything, but would they be allowed to split?  I doubt it.  Is there anything in the Constitution about this?  How did the states split in the early years of America?  Anyone know?
  

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The split would have to be approved by the state legislature as well as congress. West Virginia was approved by Lincoln, which was technically wrong but it was wartime. One reason I don't think this will happen is California's 55 electoral votes. The democrats will never risk losing a big chunk of those votes in the event that the new states might be red.
  
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Re: Break-up of California moves a step closer as billionaire gets enough signatures to trigger vo
Reply #9 - 04/13/18 at 01:21:52
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Kybeagle wrote on 04/12/18 at 22:58:13:
The split would have to be approved by the state legislature as well as congress. West Virginia was approved by Lincoln, which was technically wrong but it was wartime. One reason I don't think this will happen is California's 55 electoral votes. The democrats will never risk losing a big chunk of those votes in the event that the new states might be red.

That is the biggest reason they wont allow it, the second reason is water.
  

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