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Reply #40 - 04/15/18 at 09:37:43
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countzero wrote on 04/15/18 at 09:27:54:
So you guys wanted a war with Russia?

Or, maybe understood Russia was holding a busted flush against our full house.

(ie: there is no danger, and never was any danger of this escalating.)
  
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Reply #41 - 04/15/18 at 11:22:12
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My take, if you have to warn Russia and Syria so their personal are not killed while we strike those assets, then they are culpable.
If it is not worth killing them to stop the chemical attacks then it's not worth getting involved in.

This is all a dog and pony show.
  
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Reply #42 - 04/15/18 at 11:42:09
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new englander wrote on 04/14/18 at 16:26:10:
Am a bit surprised to read so much animosity towards Assad here. While the 'party line' has always blamed him for the attacks and the rebel insurgency, there is evidence that he is, in fact, a rather popular president, a Christian influenced Alawite, a man who has restored his nation's economy to its own central bank, away from the banksters of the NWO. He has virtually no motive for attacking his own people of all faiths.
When folk call for attacking, nuking, wiping them out, I am confused who they speak of for certain, but it appears the be Assad and his supporters.
There is little doubt that following the neocon strategies of the status quo puts Syria in grave danger. The neocon warmongering plays into the hands of the big oil interests who seek to destabilize the nation to facilitate their pipeline.
What entities support these cabalists and their agenda? UK, Germany, EU, perhaps Mossad, UN, CIA...any entity on the New World Order path.
Which nations are not on this track, are relatively free from cabalist control and influence? Russia, China...Trump is attempting to join them. He has already seemed to have removed CIA influence from NK and some believe this situation in Syria is setting up the liberation of Iran, as well.
I guess I am wondering if there can be a bit more specificity in comments on this serious situation.

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You admit you're liberal? 
Sorry!  Not buying into the leftist view of the ME.  Next you'll be criticizing us for opposing Syria in the first place.

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Reply #43 - 04/15/18 at 13:01:58
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oldcoot wrote on 04/15/18 at 11:42:09:
How the devil did you get accepted to this forum?  Grin Grin
You admit you're liberal? 
Sorry!  Not buying into the leftist view of the ME.  Next you'll be criticizing us for opposing Syria in the first place.

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She is way out there on the leftist fringe. Another liberal troll who isn't long for this forum.
  

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Reply #44 - 04/15/18 at 13:29:35
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It is my sense that America’s foreign policy compass must have been misplaced by someone right after WW-2.
We now seem to believe that almost anywhere something happens on the geopolitical landscape it is in America’s ‘vital interest’ to aimlessly head in that direction.

Here’s a thought: Even without a “compass” America should be able to find her own borders, where a genuine, certifiable national security interest can be found!

  
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Reply #45 - 04/15/18 at 13:58:00
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The ME has always been a powder keg. When our forces were in Vietnam we would get TWIXES about the middle east.
Someone had to stand up to the fact chemical weapons were being used. Russia backs one guy and we back the other in all circumstances.
We can't make Russia look/feel like they are being forced into a corner. This could lead to their bombing our forces, with or without a notice to bomb.
We do not want to start WW3 in that Chit Hole.
  
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Reply #46 - 04/15/18 at 14:03:30
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WMK wrote on 04/15/18 at 13:29:35:
It is my sense that America’s foreign policy compass must have been misplaced by someone right after WW-2.
We now seem to believe that almost anywhere something happens on the geopolitical landscape it is in America’s ‘vital interest’ to aimlessly head in that direction.

Here’s a thought: Even without a “compass” America should be able to find her own borders, where a genuine, certifiable national security interest can be found!

You appear to be saying that America should go back to pre-WWII isolationism. That is clearly impossible in today's world where nearly every action by any nation has world-wide implications.
  

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Reply #47 - 04/15/18 at 15:17:45
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There's a huge area between isolationist and nation building.
  
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Reply #48 - 04/15/18 at 15:30:06
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No one wants a war with anyone. You can either attack the source of this or evaluate it with an open mind.

Hours after more than 100 cruise missiles slammed into Syria, a confident President Bashar al-Assad, dressed in a dark suit and tie, strode through the gates of his palace.“The aggression will only increase Syria’s determination,” Assad said in his first comments after the strike.While the attack by the U.S., Britain and France destroyed military positions and research facilities linked to chemical weapons, it did little to degrade Assad’s capacity to wage war, or target the fighters from Russia, Iran and Hezbollah supporting him.The action has underlined that the NATO powers won’t tolerate the use of chemical weapons. But it also telegraphed to Assad that his position is safe and pretty much anything else goes. As U.K. Prime Minister Theresa May said: The attack “was not about regime change.”Without a serious step up in allied strikes in both frequency and size — and right now there is no sign that will happen — there's no stopping Assad. He has already all but won his war, and those in the triple alliance supporting him can get back to pursuing their policy objectives."



It doesn't change the debate as to whether we should have alerted Russian or not but it shows just how ineffective these types of attacks are if you have the backing of a superpower albeit not necessarily the top one. Russia merely moved its' forces out to sea to avoid direct conflict.  How long do you think it will take for Russian to resupply Assad with chemical weapons?  Russia is not deterred. They are the real problem here not some two-bit dictator. I don't have the answers,maybe someone here does.
  
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Reply #49 - 04/15/18 at 16:07:16
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I think Iran is a problem also. But Assad is a sick SOB. He would be what he is regardless of which way the wind blows.
I am satisfied with the bombing as is.


  
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