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Re: Tentative GOP deal for Dreamers in the works
Reply #10 - 06/08/18 at 19:29:15
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The DACA illegals will ultimately stay; they'll get what they want, just like their illegal parents.  And the dems will find enough corrupt judges to keep any wall from being built; you can count on that.

I absolutely do not blame Trump; what he's accomplished without support from his own party - - it's truly amazing.  But this wall - at least in a meaningful (and effective) form: it'll never be built.
  

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Reply #11 - 06/09/18 at 05:13:45
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Obilivious Maxinus wrote on 06/08/18 at 12:47:22:
Why build the wall when we let'm all in anyway ?  Until we enforce our immigration laws, and really crack down on those who employ illegal aliens, remove all benefits now given to them, it's all a waste of time and money.


I agree with this.  The wall is great - I support it.

But if we don't enforce already existing laws, it won't do what we need it to.  We have EVERY measure already in place.

DACA is a joke without starting deportations on all of them.  Whether they are "criminals" or not, they need to be deported.  DACA is a small number compared to the others floating around out there.  E-verify and true punishment for hiring illegals and real deportations are needed.

It doesn't end with the DACA group.  Need the wall and enforce what we already have.

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Re: Tentative GOP deal for Dreamers in the works
Reply #12 - 06/09/18 at 09:35:45
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USMC1967 wrote on 06/08/18 at 15:54:49:
I don't know the names but I have heard those who employ illegals are "donors" to some republicans who are behind this travesty.

Trump proposed a deal but the dems reject it out of hand.

Rinos pushing this will suffer at election.



I seldom quote Mortician Joe but here is a quote from Feb. 2018;


I wish that were True, but it isn't.  Over 90% of Incumbents are re-elected every time.  That is the problem in America and the People could correct it, but they won't.
  
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Reply #13 - 06/09/18 at 12:57:18
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bigmck wrote on 06/09/18 at 09:35:45:
I wish that were True, but it isn't.  Over 90% of Incumbents are re-elected every time.  That is the problem in America and the People could correct it, but they won't.


That IS a big part of the problem, re-electing them.  Problem is, that's who has all the money - incumbents.  So some upstart has such little chance to make the changes.  The Establishment attempts to DESTROY the challenger, often successfully.

Then those of us like in Illinois have NO option for anyone but Democrats.  The Republican Party essentially writes off Illinois.

I don't blame the people totally.  We are often given little choice.

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