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The Current Democrat and Republican Parties Are Dead
06/12/18 at 03:00:07
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Its time for a Nationalist Party, America and Americans first, always.
  

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Reply #1 - 06/12/18 at 06:44:51
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It would be the Communist Party USA (Democrat) Vs everyone else party.
  
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countzero wrote on 06/12/18 at 03:00:07:
Its time for a Nationalist Party, America and Americans first, always.


Ahhh, another Third Party.  We take half of the Republicans and start a new Party.   Let me see......My math is not very good, but I believe the New Party would still have less than the Democrats.
  
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Re: The Current Democrat and Republican Parties Are Dead
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bigmck wrote on 06/12/18 at 07:41:51:
Ahhh, another Third Party.  We take half of the Republicans and start a new Party.   Let me see......My math is not very good, but I believe the New Party would still have less than the Democrats.

Trump is already building a Nationalists party.
  

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Re: The Current Democrat and Republican Parties Are Dead
Reply #4 - 06/12/18 at 12:51:00
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Nationalist

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Nationalism is a political, social, and economic system characterized by the promotion of the interests of a particular nation, especially with the aim of gaining and maintaining sovereignty over the homeland. The political ideology of nationalism holds that a nation should govern themselves, free from outside interference, and is linked to the concept of self-determination. Nationalism is further oriented towards developing and maintaining a national identity based on shared, social characteristics, such as culture and language, religion and politics, and a belief in a common ancestry. Nationalism, therefore, seeks to preserve a nation's culture, by way of pride in national achievements, and is closely linked to patriotism, which, in some cases, includes the belief that the nation should control the country's government and the means of production.

Which is how dictators justify a take over. 
Nationalism as a patriotic feeling is certainly acceptable, but it should be limited to the preservation, rather than control of culture and social mores of the country.

  

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Reply #5 - 06/12/18 at 13:11:57
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Good. The founders of the country wanted a country without political parties. They hated 'factions' as they were called back them and Madison thought they were evil because they put party interests above that of the nation.

A nation of independent voters.
  

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dustymars wrote on 06/12/18 at 06:44:51:
It would be the Communist Party USA (Democrat) Vs everyone else party.

Great idea. The American party vs the evilcrat party.

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countzero wrote on 06/12/18 at 12:27:34:

Trump is already building a Nationalists party.


OK, how does that change anything?  It is still dividing the Republicans and giving the Democrats more votes.
  
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bigmck wrote on 06/13/18 at 13:22:09:
OK, how does that change anything?  It is still dividing the Republicans and giving the Democrats more votes.


But you still have to factor in Independents -- like me.  I only vote Republican as the lesser of evils.  I could get behind a Trump Nationalist Party. Of course, I'm a conservative Independent, but I figure many Independents (far less conservative than me) would also vote for a Trump Nationalist Party.

I'd like to see a poll taken that would indicate how many voters would be receptive to a Trump Nationalist Party, now, then maybe two years from now. If Trump continues making America great again and ousting illegals, winning trade wars, bringing jobs back from overseas, creating more and higher paying jobs, etc., I think the polling results would be even more favorable as time passes.
  
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Re: The Current Democrat and Republican Parties Are Dead
Reply #9 - 06/13/18 at 17:16:50
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WAlt wrote on 06/13/18 at 16:30:32:
But you still have to factor in Independents -- like me.  I only vote Republican as the lesser of evils.  I could get behind a Trump Nationalist Party. Of course, I'm a conservative Independent, but I figure many Independents (far less conservative than me) would also vote for a Trump Nationalist Party.

I'd like to see a poll taken that would indicate how many voters would be receptive to a Trump Nationalist Party, now, then maybe two years from now. If Trump continues making America great again and ousting illegals, winning trade wars, bringing jobs back from overseas, creating more and higher paying jobs, etc., I think the polling results would be even more favorable as time passes.


There is no such thing as an Independent Voter.  Everyone including yourself is locked into one Party or the Other.  Would you vote Democrat?  I doubt it.  You are a Republican.  50 years ago, there were people who would vote Republican one time and Democrat the next.  The Parties were not so different.  The only thing the candidates try to do now is get everyone out to vote, not convince them to vote Republican.  There are No Independents. 
  
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