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07/07/18 at 14:32:23
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--who assaulted 48,000 persons.
Hey, democraps---you wanna' explain again why you want to disband ICE?
(Stupid twits!)


2017=48,000 assaults
  

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Not one of these crimes would have happened if they weren't here.

I want a breakdown of the COST of enforcement, legalities, taking care of illegal alien children, taking care of detained illegal aliens, and what they get from the taxpayer when they or their children are here illegally.

Can anyone explain how an illegal alien gets anything from the taxpayer?  And why?  Does anyone think they SHOULD be supported by the taxpayer?  I just don't get it.

Oh, we're a compassionate country.  Any compassion for the citizens in this whole issue?

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Reply #2 - 07/07/18 at 18:48:09
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oldcoot wrote on 07/07/18 at 14:32:23:
--who assaulted 48,000 persons.
Hey, democraps---you wanna' explain again why you want to disband ICE?
(Stupid twits!)


2017=48,000 assaults

With no ICE, the drugs flow freely, human trafficing unabated and a free flow of future democrat slave voters.
  

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Reply #3 - 07/07/18 at 19:08:13
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Eliminating ICE is not going to happen and there is no need to worry about it.  It is just something they have to complain about.  This should not even be a talking point here.
  
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Reply #4 - 07/07/18 at 19:51:24
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bigmck wrote on 07/07/18 at 19:08:13:
Eliminating ICE is not going to happen and there is no need to worry about it.  It is just something they have to complain about.  This should not even be a talking point here.



Very true.  I don't even think about it.

Lily003.  Huh
  
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Reply #5 - 07/07/18 at 19:55:39
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Lily003 wrote on 07/07/18 at 16:31:19:
Not one of these crimes would have happened if they weren't here.

I want a breakdown of the COST of enforcement, legalities, taking care of illegal alien children, taking care of detained illegal aliens, and what they get from the taxpayer when they or their children are here illegally.

Can anyone explain how an illegal alien gets anything from the taxpayer?  And why?  Does anyone think they SHOULD be supported by the taxpayer?  I just don't get it.

Oh, we're a compassionate country.  Any compassion for the citizens in this whole issue?

Lily003.  Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry


I know you know this, because I've stated this so many times at this forum (and on Facebook, when I'm arguing with liberals).

Not enough legal Americans have skin in the game. By that I mean, 45% pay no federal income taxes. And those of us that do pay federal income taxes -- we aren't currently paying for all costs, directly or indirectly, for illegal immigration and border security.  All of it, no exceptions, are being charged to the national debt, being borrowed from China, Japan, other countries.

This country has been averaging a $trillion dollar deficit now for 9 years. That means all the costs for illegal immigration is not now being paid for by the taxpayers, only deferred down the road to be paid later.

If tomorrow Trump stated that all the Trump tax cuts would be rescinded, and retroactively paid back to the Treasury, plus, federal income taxes will be raised on all current taxpayers, as well as the 45% that currently pay no federal income taxes, so as to pay back all past costs of illegal immigration (that contributed to the now $21.2 trillion national debt), and all expected future costs -- what do you think public sentiment would be then?

I could almost guarantee once all legal citizen's had their lifestyle's reduced as a result of having to pay much higher federal income taxes to pay for all aspects of illegal immigration (plus losing jobs to them to boot),  the current sentiment (by liberals) to welcome come one, come all, would change fast.
  
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Reply #6 - 07/07/18 at 20:22:03
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No doubt about it, Walt.  If they had to pay for it now, not too many would be terribly welcoming.

But in other ways, I think we are paying.  Just think of all the things AMERICAN CITIZENS would get if it wasn't diverted to illegal aliens.  Roads could be built and repaired, New York's subway system could be updated, veterans could get better health care, perhaps some of the homeless issue could be dealt with, bridges updated, so many upgrades made, and the list is endless.  I do believe we ARE paying now in some way.

Just today I couldn't get a system to change from Spanish to English.  I am sick of calling businesses with people with Spanish as their first language, and I have a hard time understanding them.  Tired of pressing whatever for English and all the other cultural changes forced upon us.

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Reply #7 - 07/07/18 at 21:24:29
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---------------------**********-Lily003 wrote on 07/07/18 at 20:22:03:
No doubt about it, Walt.  If they had to pay for it now, not too many would be terribly welcoming.

But in other ways, I think we are paying.  Just think of all the things AMERICAN CITIZENS would get if it wasn't diverted to illegal aliens.  Roads could be bu+
.ilt and repaired, New York's subway system could be updated, veterans could get better health care, perhaps some of the homeless issue could be dealt with, bridges updated, so many upgrades made, and the list is endless.  I do believe we ARE paying now in some way.

Just today I couldn't get a system to change from Spanish to English.  I am sick of calling businesses with people with Spanish as their first language, and I have a hard time understanding them.  Tired of pressing whatever for English and all the other cultural changes forced upon us.

Lily003.  Angry



Lily,  we are borrowing about 33% more than we are taking in in yearly tax revenue, and have been for 9 years. To me, that means all the costs for illegal immigration, foreign aid, and many other things, things we shouldn't be spending money on, are being charged to the national debt.

I submit that illegal immigration would have never, ever got so out of control as it is now had we all long had to pay for it as it was happening -- and not have been allowed to charge it to the national debt.

I got in an argument of Facebook with one of my liberal cousins (woman, mother and grandmother) I grew up with, and only four months apart in age, she being younger.

She's all about letting as many illegals and proclaimed refugees into this country. I told her about the costs, and how it's being charged to the national debt.

I said to her, let me give you a direct analogy. If you were the head of the household, supporting your two children (back in the day, right after she was divorced) and were charging on your credit card(s) 33% more each month than the income you were earning -- would you then take in some neighbors and their children (that had no right to move into your house), and then use your credit card to cover the costs of them? Because that, in essence, is what you are advocating.

Well, she's never responded back to me! And this isn't the first time. When ever she can't refute my facts and/or sound logic, she never replies. I don't mind that much, because all our mutual family and friends can see what she's all about, and how she can't refute my arguments.

BTW, my first cousin was an only child and coddled all her life, never wanting for anything. When her parent's passed away she inherited their estate -- and she blew right through it quickly. Now she hardly has two nickles to rub together. I highly doubt if she even pays federal income taxes. I believe she's one of those 45% that pay no federal income taxes.

I don't want to get too personal on Facebook with her, and suggest that because she probably doesn't pay federal income taxes -- and has no skin in the game -- is probably one big reason she is so open to letting all the illegals and refugees into this country.































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