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Re: When did ‘Nationalism,’ ‘Alt-Right’ and ‘Populism’ become bad words?
Reply #10 - 08/07/18 at 14:04:04
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newt2008 wrote on 08/07/18 at 01:06:33:
I have to disagree. I am fully aware of who Richard Spencer is and I am also fully aware that he has been around long before the left started branding all Trump supporters as "alt right". Richard Spencer and his followers are a very small number compared to the millions of good, honest Americans who wanted to stop the destruction of their country. I don't see what's "alt right" about that.

The folks in places like Portland who are willing to take on antifa are simply people who are sick and fed up of seeing their fellow citizens get their heads bashed in fir the crime of attending a political rally. I do not understand what is "alt right" about that. No, candidate Trump/President Trump did not start the violence. The very fake news hysterical drive by media and the left did.

The left has introduced alt right and added it to all their other insults- racists, nazis, islamaphobes, homophobes, deplorables,  bitter clingers, fundamentalists, and yes, white supremacists. It's all part of alinskyism in branding their "enemies". I for one am not going to let them define me.

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SPENCER INVENTED THE TERM ALT-RIGHT TO DESCRIBE HIMSELF AND HIS MOVEMENT.  THE LEFT DIDN'T INVENT IT AND SPENCER STILL USES IT TO DESCRIBE HIMSELF.
  
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Re: When did ‘Nationalism,’ ‘Alt-Right’ and ‘Populism’ become bad words?
Reply #11 - 08/08/18 at 09:41:45
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SO WHAT??? THE VERY FAKE NEWS MECIA DID NOT INVENT THE TERM ALT RIGHT. Has that stopped them from using it to brand everyone on the right? Has that stopped them from claiming that the Presidents supporters were "alt right"? From Alex Jones to Candace Owens to Stefan Molyneaux. Mike Cernovich, Laurn Southern, styxhexenhammer, Paul Joseph Watson, Scott Adams have all been branded "alt right" not by RICHARD SPENCER but by the very fake news media. As a matter of fact Spencer does even like these people. But it serves a purpose to brand them all with the offensive term.

Why? The audience of the very fake news media are poorly/mis-informed they absorb and regurgitate every ridiculous narrative they see and hear. The very fake news media deliberately use these terms to describe every "right winger" because we are supposed to be evil incarnate and we voted for evil incarnate. If you truly believe the 17 year old kid in the MAGA hat is an evil nazi, alt right, Russian bot who helped steal an election from the rightful president, do you stop at ANYTHING to rid society of them? That's not Richatd Spencer. That's the very fake news drive by media and the thugs they created and have unleashed among us.

Richard Spencer is truly a fringe individual. Yes, I agree he loves/seeks the notoriety. The man supports uniniversal health and Medicaid for all and a whole swat of leftist "policies" for goodness sake. Dinesh has some very telling quotes from him in Death of a Nation. There is nothing right wing about the nonsense he espouses. Besides many "nazis/skin heads" existed in the country prior to the 2016 election? How many exist today? Why?'

Richard Soencer is not the problem, the very fake news drive by media, the left and the un-relentless narrative of Russia, Russia, Russia, nazis, alt right, racist, white supremacist Trunp supporters is. THAT Is what created the "toxic"'atmosphere they love to decry. Not Richard Spencer.

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Re: When did ‘Nationalism,’ ‘Alt-Right’ and ‘Populism’ become bad words?
Reply #12 - 08/09/18 at 13:20:34
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newt2008 wrote on 08/08/18 at 09:41:45:
SO WHAT??? THE VERY FAKE NEWS MECIA DID NOT INVENT THE TERM ALT RIGHT. Has that stopped them from using it to brand everyone on the right? Has that stopped them from claiming that the Presidents supporters were "alt right"? From Alex Jones to Candace Owens to Stefan Molyneaux. Mike Cernovich, Laurn Southern, styxhexenhammer, Paul Joseph Watson, Scott Adams have all been branded "alt right" not by RICHARD SPENCER but by the very fake news media. As a matter of fact Spencer does even like these people. But it serves a purpose to brand them all with the offensive term.

Why? The audience of the very fake news media are poorly/mis-informed they absorb and regurgitate every ridiculous narrative they see and hear. The very fake news media deliberately use these terms to describe every "right winger" because we are supposed to be evil incarnate and we voted for evil incarnate. If you truly believe the 17 year old kid in the MAGA hat is an evil nazi, alt right, Russian bot who helped steal an election from the rightful president, do you stop at ANYTHING to rid society of them? That's not Richatd Spencer. That's the very fake news drive by media and the thugs they created and have unleashed among us.

Richard Spencer is truly a fringe individual. Yes, I agree he loves/seeks the notoriety. The man supports uniniversal health and Medicaid for all and a whole swat of leftist "policies" for goodness sake. Dinesh has some very telling quotes from him in Death of a Nation. There is nothing right wing about the nonsense he espouses. Besides many "nazis/skin heads" existed in the country prior to the 2016 election? How many exist today? Why?'

Richard Soencer is not the problem, the very fake news drive by media, the left and the un-relentless narrative of Russia, Russia, Russia, nazis, alt right, racist, white supremacist Trunp supporters is. THAT Is what created the "toxic"'atmosphere they love to decry. Not Richard Spencer.

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Of course Spencer believes in socialism, NAZIS ARE SOCIALISTS!

The left is losing this war more rapidly than you think.  There is a revolution going on Youtube right now as evidenced by recent people on the right being banned.

Here is an incredible article from a leftist publication on how a Canadian is helping us dismantle the left.  I strongly recommend watching Peterson's videos (the majority of YouTube a millennial men).

"Why the left is so afraid of Jordan Peterson"

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/why-the-left-is-so-afraid-o...

He has been called alt-right and he has disavowed the alt-right and says they are just as dangerous as leftists.

New right is a more appropriate term.  There are pro Trump supporters right now who are black or Hispanic that belong to groups like Patriot Prayer, The Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers who seek out antifa and alt right racists to get in not only ideological arguments but are willing to use their fists as well.

Steven Crowder has videos hitting 30 million unique users for crying out loud.  That makes dinosaurs like Rush and Hannity look small in comparison.

We are winning.
  
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Re: When did ‘Nationalism,’ ‘Alt-Right’ and ‘Populism’ become bad words?
Reply #13 - 08/09/18 at 13:41:29
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McCoy, it seems we get our info from the same sources.  I love Jordan Peterson. One of the things I like most about him is his refusal to accept the premises of the left. He is very precise with language which is important in the current environment.  I also like Crowder too.

Have you heard of Stefan Molyneaux? He is another favorite of mine.  He did a great defense of Alex Jones and he did not put down Alex or call him names. He recognized what is really happening and the danger of the having media entities with so much power.

I would not call that talke radio guys dinosaurs though. They are still serving an important purpose. Especially Rush and Hannity. They amplify what is going on and they still command huge audiences.

Nonetheless I agree. We are winning but too many of us still continue to absorb the narrative from the very fake news hysterical drive by media.

Ms. Borelli
  

"Within the pages of the Bible are the answers to all the problems men face.
"Facts are stubborn things.
"[Conservatives] believe everyday is the Fourth of July, but the democrats believe everyday is April 15th.
"We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.
"People who are pro abortion are already born.
"The problem with liberals is not that they are ignorant, the problem is they know so much that is not so.
Ronald Reagan
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Re: When did ‘Nationalism,’ ‘Alt-Right’ and ‘Populism’ become bad words?
Reply #14 - 08/09/18 at 14:33:15
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Could be because we responded to it.

Made them believe it ticked us off.  Frankly, I don't care what they call us---I have two words I use to describe myself:  Conservative Patriot.

  

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Re: When did ‘Nationalism,’ ‘Alt-Right’ and ‘Populism’ become bad words?
Reply #15 - 08/09/18 at 16:00:09
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oldcoot wrote on 08/09/18 at 14:33:15:
Could be because we responded to it.

Made them believe it ticked us off.  Frankly, I don't care what they call us---I have two words I use to describe myself:  Conservative Patriot.


I thought you described yourself as old coot Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
  

"Within the pages of the Bible are the answers to all the problems men face.
"Facts are stubborn things.
"[Conservatives] believe everyday is the Fourth of July, but the democrats believe everyday is April 15th.
"We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.
"People who are pro abortion are already born.
"The problem with liberals is not that they are ignorant, the problem is they know so much that is not so.
Ronald Reagan
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Re: When did ‘Nationalism,’ ‘Alt-Right’ and ‘Populism’ become bad words?
Reply #16 - 08/09/18 at 18:03:46
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newt2008 wrote on 08/09/18 at 13:41:29:
McCoy, it seems we get our info from the same sources.  I love Jordan Peterson. One of the things I like most about him is his refusal to accept the premises of the left. He is very precise with language which is important in the current environment.  I also like Crowder too.

Have you heard of Stefan Molyneaux? He is another favorite of mine.  He did a great defense of Alex Jones and he did not put down Alex or call him names. He recognized what is really happening and the danger of the having media entities with so much power.

I would not call that talke radio guys dinosaurs though. They are still serving an important purpose. Especially Rush and Hannity. They amplify what is going on and they still command huge audiences.

Nonetheless I agree. We are winning but too many of us still continue to absorb the narrative from the very fake news hysterical drive by media.

Ms. Borelli


I have never seen Molyneaux but will check it out.

Peterson's biggest warning is because of our education (and countless documentaries on Netflix) of fascists/Nazis that it is easy to identify and marginalize them (this was done with some elements in Charlottesville).

But our true lack of education on Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao and lesser communists, we are not as readily prepared to identify an ideology that has killed 4x the people fascism has killed.

That right now is the true danger and Peterson is warning us.
  
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Re: When did ‘Nationalism,’ ‘Alt-Right’ and ‘Populism’ become bad words?
Reply #17 - 08/10/18 at 08:17:47
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killermccoy wrote on 08/09/18 at 13:20:34:
Steven Crowder has videos hitting 30 million unique users for crying out loud.  That makes dinosaurs like Rush and Hannity look small in comparison.

We are winning.


You think Rush and Hannity are Dinosaurs?  Man, that says a lot about you.
  

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Re: When did ‘Nationalism,’ ‘Alt-Right’ and ‘Populism’ become bad words?
Reply #18 - 08/10/18 at 10:22:55
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bigmck wrote on 08/10/18 at 08:17:47:
You think Rush and Hannity are Dinosaurs?  Man, that says a lot about you.


What does it say about me?  Maybe I would rather get my information from someone who hasn't been sitting in air conditioned studios for the last 20-30 years making millions (nothing wrong with that) instead of the 35 and younger conservatives actually on the streets engaging and fighting the left.  We are winning.  Ever hear of Red Pill Democrats leaving the party in droves?

I started listening to Rush in the early 90's on Armed Forces Radio while in the Marines.  At the time I loved it.  But the Rush I knew from the 90's who was pro Bush, Dole and Bush would've never supported Trump.  I will say, Rush knows which direction his audience goes and is quick to follow the money.  I haven't listened to him in over a decade, I think because of his steadfast support of the war in Iraq and Bush.
  
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