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Re: Trump survives presidency or gets run out?
Reply #30 - 12/04/18 at 13:38:05
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cj_real_american wrote on 12/04/18 at 13:37:25:
I've read this thread, and all I can say is:  President Trump still has two more years before I start worrying one way or the other.  All I can do is pray he runs, and wins.  Cheesy

  

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Reply #31 - 12/04/18 at 13:56:09
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cj_real_american wrote on 12/04/18 at 13:38:05:

Yes!  He has 2 more years--but if just 15% of pubs start talking negative, he will lose, because, like it or not, the pubs have a lot of dummies who "go with the flow", doncha' know? 
Their votes can help a candidate sink, or swim.

I'm not waving pom-poms.  There is never anything wrong with positive thinking, no matter how it's twisted.

Apparently some think the power of positive thinking is going to be smashed by the negative left AND pubs, who decide to vote for the dem, because they don't want to vote for a loser.

I've been voting publican in CA for many years--and losing for many years.  I'm very familiar with what negativity can do for a candidate.  But nobody can say I pointed out the negative points of my own party.  The dems already do a good job of that!

I've been sucked into considering the negatives too often lately.
Yep, they exist, but I choose to find the positive and emphasize those, instead.
Just me.
  

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Re: Trump survives presidency or gets run out?
Reply #32 - 12/04/18 at 14:27:41
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oldcoot wrote on 12/04/18 at 13:56:09:
Yes!  He has 2 more years--but if just 15% of pubs start talking negative, he will lose, because, like it or not, the pubs have a lot of dummies who "go with the flow", doncha' know? 
Their votes can help a candidate sink, or swim.

I'm not waving pom-poms.  There is never anything wrong with positive thinking, no matter how it's twisted.

Apparently some think the power of positive thinking is going to be smashed by the negative left AND pubs, who decide to vote for the dem, because they don't want to vote for a loser.

I've been voting publican in CA for many years--and losing for many years.  I'm very familiar with what negativity can do for a candidate.  But nobody can say I pointed out the negative points of my own party.  The dems already do a good job of that!

I've been sucked into considering the negatives too often lately.
Yep, they exist, but I choose to find the positive and emphasize those, instead.
Just me.


YEP. POSITIVE--ONLY WAY TO BE!!!
  
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Re: Trump survives presidency or gets run out?
Reply #33 - 12/04/18 at 14:47:56
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oldcoot wrote on 12/04/18 at 13:56:09:
Yes!  He has 2 more years--but if just 15% of pubs start talking negative, he will lose, because, like it or not, the pubs have a lot of dummies who "go with the flow", doncha' know? 
Their votes can help a candidate sink, or swim.

I'm not waving pom-poms.  There is never anything wrong with positive thinking, no matter how it's twisted.

Apparently some think the power of positive thinking is going to be smashed by the negative left AND pubs, who decide to vote for the dem, because they don't want to vote for a loser.

I've been voting publican in CA for many years--and losing for many years.  I'm very familiar with what negativity can do for a candidate.  But nobody can say I pointed out the negative points of my own party.  The dems already do a good job of that!

I've been sucked into considering the negatives too often lately.
Yep, they exist, but I choose to find the positive and emphasize those, instead.
Just me.


One more thing.  Look at the way the press fawned over he-who-shall-not-be-named and now G H W Bush. A Martian would be excused if he saw the fawning, compared it to what President Trump gets 24/7 and came away thinking President Trump really is the bad guy here. The left and the media hates all republicans/conservatives even the ones who betray everything we stand for to curry favor with the evilcrats. President Trump is not an anomaly. Yes, he gets it worse that any other republican, but that is because the left has become more and more unhinged because their inevitable, invincible, anointed candidate lost despite every darn bit of cheating they did to get her in.

Odumbo lost over 1,100 seats for the demonrats. In his first midterm he lost over 60. Some of the very same people who are complaining were the ones who were quoting “historical trends” in te months leading up to the election. Remember how everyone was looking for the big blue wave because the newly elected President’s party “always loses seats”? Now that it has happened it’s cause to set my hair on fire and fly off the handle every time anyone disagrees with me? Ain’t gonna.

What exactly did the republican majority in the House get us the past two years? Paul Ryan and the Trump hating NeverTrumper crowned purposefully stymied the President’s agenda. Their voters repaid them. Now I’m not one to advocate letting demonrats win to punish gutless republicans but not everyone thinks like me so I fully understand when others do it. Is it bad that we lost the House? Of course it is. Does that mean the President is finished? Of course not. The world has not ended yet.

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Re: Trump survives presidency or gets run out?
Reply #34 - 12/04/18 at 15:21:54
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Pretty amazing how we say the media spins things and here are some of us spinning the frustrations that some here chose to express into a foregone conclusion as to what those people (expressing frustration) may or may not do going forward.

1. I did not see anyone here blame Trump personally for anything.

2. I did not see anyone here say they are walking away from the G.O.P.

3. I didn't see anyone here say they weren't going to vote come 2020.

4. I didn't see anyone say Trump should give up and not run although considering what he has been put through for his good efforts he would be entitled to do so.

5. I did not see anyone say they were going to vote for a Democrat in protest.

6. I didn't see anyone post the world was ending either.

What I do see are a few who equate positivism with demanded group think and if you step out of that realm and voice frustration NOT AGAINST TRUMP but the circumstances then by default without ever doing or saying anything negative...you've done all the things mentioned above.

Now I reread the entire thread and I didn't see one person do any of the above and I would say that I read almost every thread before I reply to it. If people want to wear rose colored glasses when it comes to politics that certainly is their prerogative. Nothing wrong with being positive either but that does not preclude others who wish to discuss reality and their frustrations. But it is equally unfair to bash either directly or by innuendo, people who are venting their frustration much of which is based on exactly what went down. There was a contingent that wanted everyone in the face of reality to pretend there was a red wave coming when there was zero to indicate that it was. If you offered that opinion you were promptly denounced as following fake news or you were a "dummy" as it was put for facing the facts...or worse you were supporting Democrats. Well we know how it went, don't we?

Just to address one comment about faith and doubt not being able to coexist, I'd say they can. One's faith in God has nothing to do with politics unless one is claiming that God is a Republican. It's my belief that God watches over us and allows us to make our own choices, good or bad. He intervenes when we make dire choices and he doesn't always do it then either. One is certainly welcome to believe otherwise but so too are others who many not share the connection between faith and politics. I think God lets us make our own mistakes with an eye on hoping that we learn from them.

I'd ask..did we learn anything from the midterms? We learned that once and for all there is widespread proof that Democrats cheat. Are we doing anything about it? I don't know but it doesn't appear to be waking up the GOP. So the midterms are in the history books. Are we going to be shocked if by chance Trump loses and we find out it's due to all the fraud that the G.O.P. seems to have become complacent about?

I think it's good for people to vent their frustration when it comes to politics. If enough of us did and if maybe more than just Trump listened, we might not be so frustrated to begin with. Expecting politicians to listen seems to have become a thing of the past for both parties. In a politician's world it's not about the voters...it's about what they, the politicians want.

And before anyone implies that I was being negative vis a vis this thread topic or anything I said within it, I suggest that you read Reply# 1, along with everything that I posted since I came here. Cheesy

Well if it's tough to be a conservative in some blue states, try being one in NJ. Wink

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Re: Trump survives presidency or gets run out?
Reply #35 - 12/05/18 at 16:26:56
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ConservativeOne wrote on 12/04/18 at 15:21:54:
Pretty amazing how we say the media spins things and here are some of us spinning the frustrations that some here chose to express into a foregone conclusion as to what those people (expressing frustration) may or may not do going forward.

1. I did not see anyone here blame Trump personally for anything.

2. I did not see anyone here say they are walking away from the G.O.P.

3. I didn't see anyone here say they weren't going to vote come 2020.

4. I didn't see anyone say Trump should give up and not run although considering what he has been put through for his good efforts he would be entitled to do so.

5. I did not see anyone say they were going to vote for a Democrat in protest.

6. I didn't see anyone post the world was ending either.

What I do see are a few who equate positivism with demanded group think and if you step out of that realm and voice frustration NOT AGAINST TRUMP but the circumstances then by default without ever doing or saying anything negative...you've done all the things mentioned above.

Now I reread the entire thread and I didn't see one person do any of the above and I would say that I read almost every thread before I reply to it. If people want to wear rose colored glasses when it comes to politics that certainly is their prerogative. Nothing wrong with being positive either but that does not preclude others who wish to discuss reality and their frustrations. But it is equally unfair to bash either directly or by innuendo, people who are venting their frustration much of which is based on exactly what went down. There was a contingent that wanted everyone in the face of reality to pretend there was a red wave coming when there was zero to indicate that it was. If you offered that opinion you were promptly denounced as following fake news or you were a "dummy" as it was put for facing the facts...or worse you were supporting Democrats. Well we know how it went, don't we?

Just to address one comment about faith and doubt not being able to coexist, I'd say they can. One's faith in God has nothing to do with politics unless one is claiming that God is a Republican. It's my belief that God watches over us and allows us to make our own choices, good or bad. He intervenes when we make dire choices and he doesn't always do it then either. One is certainly welcome to believe otherwise but so too are others who many not share the connection between faith and politics. I think God lets us make our own mistakes with an eye on hoping that we learn from them.

I'd ask..did we learn anything from the midterms? We learned that once and for all there is widespread proof that Democrats cheat. Are we doing anything about it? I don't know but it doesn't appear to be waking up the GOP. So the midterms are in the history books. Are we going to be shocked if by chance Trump loses and we find out it's due to all the fraud that the G.O.P. seems to have become complacent about?

I think it's good for people to vent their frustration when it comes to politics. If enough of us did and if maybe more than just Trump listened, we might not be so frustrated to begin with. Expecting politicians to listen seems to have become a thing of the past for both parties. In a politician's world it's not about the voters...it's about what they, the politicians want.

And before anyone implies that I was being negative vis a vis this thread topic or anything I said within it, I suggest that you read Reply# 1, along with everything that I posted since I came here. Cheesy

Well if it's tough to be a conservative in some blue states, try being one in NJ. Wink

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Reply #36 - 12/05/18 at 17:01:17
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Wapitime wrote on 12/05/18 at 16:26:56:
I’m sticking with Trump!



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Re: Trump survives presidency or gets run out?
Reply #37 - 12/05/18 at 21:17:20
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Wapitime wrote on 12/05/18 at 16:26:56:
I’m sticking with Trump!

Same here!
  

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Reply #38 - 12/05/18 at 22:29:41
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Naturalized-Texan wrote on 12/05/18 at 21:17:20:
Same here!


^^^^^^Ditto that!!^^^^^
  

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