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Civil War?
10/21/19 at 13:33:03
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This is a fascinating (and scary) read.               


Dr. Jack Devere Minzey, born 6 October 1928, died 8 April 2018, was the Dept. Head of Education at Eastern Michigan University as well as a prolific author of numerous books, (Editor's note) This was the last of his works:

Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through elections because they don't even agree that elections are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There's a pattern here.

What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don't accept the results of any election that they don't win. It means they don't believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections. That's a civil war.

There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.   

This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship.

Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war.

Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.

If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. He can use the IRS as his own police force and imprison citizens who speak against him. He can provide guns and money (Fast and Furious) (Iran nuclear deal) to other countries to support his own agenda, and watch while one of America's Ambassador's is dragged through the streets and murdered doing nothing to aid our citizens. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator. But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played. That's how our country is run. Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries. The Constitution has something to say about that. Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship

Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding:  Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in if you're not a member. If you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren't in the club. And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him.

Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.

That's not a free country.

It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the election. It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did.

Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist Democrat professional government.



Well now Pilgrims and Patriots, make sure you vote on every Election day!
  
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IMHO, we are currently in a full blown "Cold" Civil War.  If and when it becomes "HOT" is open for debate, but one thing is perfectly clear.  If things do no change, drastically, we are heading down a road that has a bad ending.

The other thing that is clear is the Chinese, Iranians and the Russians are fueling this with their operatives and bots within social media.  They have infiltrated and in some respects control aspects of the Dem Party and dictate policy and propaganda. 

Pelosi, Schiff, Schumer and the media are getting their marching orders from some pretty bad actors. 

Call me paranoid if you will, i have been called much worse, but one is not being paranoid if they really are after you.
  

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Reply #2 - 10/22/19 at 09:09:04
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TiredRetired wrote on 10/22/19 at 09:04:21:
IMHO, we are currently in a full blown "Cold" Civil War.  If and when it becomes "HOT" is open for debate, but one thing is perfectly clear.  If things do no change, drastically, we are heading down a road that has a bad ending.

The other thing that is clear is the Chinese, Iranians and the Russians are fueling this with their operatives and bots within social media.  They have infiltrated and in some respects control aspects of the Dem Party and dictate policy and propaganda. 

Pelosi, Schiff, Schumer and the media are getting their marching orders from some pretty bad actors. 

Call me paranoid if you will, i have been called much worse, but one is not being paranoid if they really are after you. 


I suspect it’ll become “hot” if (when) Trump wins a second term.  ,
  
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Chortovka wrote on 10/22/19 at 09:09:04:
I suspect it’ll become “hot” if (when) Trump wins a second term.  ,


No question about it.  The Garbage Party will send their brownshirts into the streets for night after night of Kristallnacht burning anything and everything.  That is totally their speed.
  

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The radical left will become violent if Trump gets re-elected, and I highly suspect Trump is going to get a second term. Things are going to get very bad IMO.
  
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We have been in a soft coup for several years, I'm surprised the real fighting hasn't started before now. Ferguson almost set if off thanks to Obama but that cooled off and never went nationwide.
There's a good chance no matter who wins the election it's going to get real ugly, real fast.  How long this will last is anyone's guess. The one thing and probably the ONLY thing that will get REAL Americans to revolt is a gun grab. We KNOW what happens to an unarmed nation, we have seen the results in the past. We also know that armed citizens have kept America a free nation for so long, our politicians and other nations still fear us. We are a force to be reckoned with !
  

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Obilivious Maxinus wrote on 10/22/19 at 17:14:21:
We have been in a soft coup for several years, I'm surprised the real fighting hasn't started before now. Ferguson almost set if off thanks to Obama but that cooled off and never went nationwide.
There's a good chance no matter who wins the election it's going to get real ugly, real fast.  How long this will last is anyone's guess. The one thing and probably the ONLY thing that will get REAL Americans to revolt is a gun grab. We KNOW what happens to an unarmed nation, we have seen the results in the past. We also know that armed citizens have kept America a free nation for so long, our politicians and other nations still fear us. We are a force to be reckoned with !


If the leftists try and use local law enforcement for confiscation, the person most likely to be asked to do so in my area is my neighbor. 

I can this scenario playing out all over America.  Gonna be one nasty scene, we can count on that. 

  

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Eventually all politics come down to a local level. And, here's where the real 'problem' is going to arise. I predict very large numbers of people will simply refuse to follow such laws, there will be open rebellion and local law enforcement will actually be complicit in said rebellion.

So, what then? Will the Socialist/Communist Liberals send in the US military? How's that going to work? Seriously, will they start killing their fellow Americans? Will the people in the military follow such depraved orders? When average generally law abiding Americans start dying at the hands of these Socialist/Communist Liberals...how is that going to play out? Even their MSM stooges won't be able to cover up something like that.
  
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Canis Minor wrote on 10/23/19 at 06:55:30:
Eventually all politics come down to a local level. And, here's where the real 'problem' is going to arise. I predict very large numbers of people will simply refuse to follow such laws, there will be open rebellion and local law enforcement will actually be complicit in said rebellion.

So, what then? Will the Socialist/Communist Liberals send in the US military? How's that going to work? Seriously, will they start killing their fellow Americans? Will the people in the military follow such depraved orders? When average generally law abiding Americans start dying at the hands of these Socialist/Communist Liberals...how is that going to play out? Even their MSM stooges won't be able to cover up something like that.


The military, by and large, will NOT defy their oath to protect the constitution.  Of that, I firmly believe.
  

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Trump needs to win again in order to put at least one more Conservative Justice on the Supreme Court. With the High Court secure then the Socialist/Communist Liberals aren't going to be able to amend the Constitution in their evil favor. And, I agree that the US Military is not likely to defy the US Constitution.

I so seriously hope and pray that Barr and Durham have something that will serve to help Trump in the 2020 election. The future of our Republic hinges on not allowing these Radical Socialist/Communist Democrats to regain the Presidency.
  
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